Backed off!!!!

[aslan]

Blackjack has always been played with 52 card decks, and it would clearly be a cheat to run a blackjack game with some cards removed without giving notice to the customer

If this is the case, then tell me why there is a need for such precise and comprehensive legislation below

I have to explain why government deems it must control everything in sight, spell out every word, cross every t, and dot every i, even in areas that are self-evident and require no explanation? I have to explain why government, populated by a bunch of lawyers who would argue what the definition of is is, want to have power over all things? Read the recent health care legislation, if you have a few months and a staff of several to help you, or the first stimulus bill, if you have another year and can hire an additional staff. Also, make sure there are plenty of lawyers on your staff so you can properly interpret the esoteric language used. Or simply read the Internal Revenue Code, where sentences run on for pages. It should more properly be called the Full Employment for Lawyers and CPAs Act.

Government cannot do anything simply, nor does it seem able to write anything in plain English. Imagine what the law would look like if the government decided to spell out every possible way a person could commit the crime of robbery? Thankfully, we have the common law which does include a compilation of millions of assorted circumstances that surround the crime of robbery. The same common law applies to cheating for profit, including cheating at cards. No need to spell out each and every circumstance and detail attendant to a game of Blackjack. Simply apply the universal principles and common law that apply.

And lastly, I am not saying that mentioning 52 cards in the law governing Blackjack is necessarily wrong or unhelpful; I'm just saying that if it wasn't spelled out, we could still prosecute a casino for cheating with a short deck.

 

[Mr. T]

O.K. if that is your opinion so be it. But there are others including me and the govenments that don't agree with you.

 

[blackjacktilt]

RE: Misunderstanding

So what you're telling me is a 10 unit spread is not profitable?
My roll is only around $5K.
I made $1,800 total with around 20 hours of play.
Better than working I think.
I'm not saying I always win, but I do not have the bankroll to "take my shot".
I play conservative and get what I can in when it's good.
I'm just a commoner and not a high roller, but I manage with what I have.
If you have advice for a rookie, I'm all ears.
I'm obviously still learning and will graciously accept advice from the "pros".
Thanks in advance....

 

[aslan]

O.K. if that is your opinion so be it. But there are others including me and the govenments that don't agree with you.

It's the libertarian in me, I suppose, but I can't stand the government's constant push to try to regulate everything under the sun, including the sun (daylight savings time). Bushama Obushma, get thee out of my life!:flame:

PS: Except where absolutely necessary of course.

 

[SleightOfHand]

Probably just a misunderstanding on Casino's part. If you only spread 10 to 1, you can't win no matter how skillful you are.

Yea, not true at all.

 

[BJgenius007]

So what you're telling me is a 10 unit spread is not profitable?
My roll is only around $5K.
I made $1,800 total with around 20 hours of play.
Better than working I think.
I'm not saying I always win, but I do not have the bankroll to "take my shot".
I play conservative and get what I can in when it's good.
I'm just a commoner and not a high roller, but I manage with what I have.
If you have advice for a rookie, I'm all ears.
I'm obviously still learning and will graciously accept advice from the "pros".
Thanks in advance....

If your bank roll is $5K, playing a shoe game and spread 10 to 1, the casino won't bother you because you are not a threat. You could win in short term but not for long. I would say spread 10 to 1 for double deck and 20 to 1 for shoe game is a minimal plus your playing condition (rules/penetration) must be at least average if not better.

 

[aslan]

If your bank roll is $5K, playing a shoe game and spread 10 to 1, the casino won't bother you because you are not a threat. You could win in short term but not for long. I would say spread 10 to 1 for double deck and 20 to 1 for shoe game is a minimal plus your playing condition (rules/penetration) must be at least average if not better.

I don't agree with this, unless it's a poor game to begin with, with marginal pen. OTOH, I don't discourage 20 to 1, or even 40 to 1, so long as your bankroll can handle it.

 

[Thunder]

You can certainly beat a shoe game with a 1-10 spread. You could even beat them with a 1-5 spread with good pen and wonging granted you won't make much.

 

[BJgenius007]

If your bank roll is $5K, playing a shoe game and spread 10 to 1, the casino won't bother you because you are not a threat. You could win in short term but not for long. I would say spread 10 to 1 for double deck and 20 to 1 for shoe game is a minimal plus your playing condition (rules/penetration) must be at least average if not better.

I should add that the only exception for the above statement is that you can wong out the negative counts.

 

[sabre]

I should add that the only exception for the above statement is that you can wong out the negative counts.

6.5/8 DAS LS H17 HiLo playall 1-10 = SCORE 12

Not good, but to say it won't win money is pretty asinine.

 

[blackjacktilt]

RE: Score = 12

Forgive me for my ignorance, but what does a score of 12 mean?
I am obviously a complete novice compared to most of you, and it's a little humiliating .
I do use the Hi / Lo, and spread with the TC of 2 or higher (bets in accordance with TC).
I deviate when necessary, and flat or walk when the shoe is going bad (negative).
I've been around a little bit and have, for the most part, done pretty well.
Since joining this website I see there is more than just the count and your bankroll and that's what I'm looking to learn.