Bankroll/Buyin Guidelines

shadroch

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itrack said:
I have actually noticed more and more casinos posting rules about betting 1 dollar chips on top of their bet. A casino near me used to have this problem, all of the ploppies thought it was good luck to play 1's on top of whatever they bet. Now they have a multiple of 5 betting restriction, which is really nice.
Whers is this? I've never heard of such a restriction.
 

aslan

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Thunder said:
Kewl, I have to agree with 21. When you have to buy in for more because you're at a max bet situation, it draws extra attention because first the pit checks the amount you're buying in for and then they check your bet amount to calculate an average bet. Should you lose that hand and have to again buy in for more you're now really going to be attracting attention. I personally from experience, think the benefits of buying in for less are outweighed by the risks involved. Regardless, an argument can be made for both cases and discretion is the better part of valor.
It can go either way. Buying in for too much draws attention. Buying in for too little draws attention when you have to buy more chips to double down or split or bet max bet in plus counts. In the latter, the main thing is to sell that you are betting high because you are stuck and trying to get even. If you are winning, you won't be buying more chips, and in that case, something like, "I have to meet my wife for dinner, so it's time to either win or lose so I can get out of here!" I usually say whatever comes naturally and spontaneously, but then, I'm a natural born liar. :eek:
 

kewljason

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flyingwind said:
Sometimes when I try to bolt, even if I'm only carrying away a stack of 7 green chips, the dealers will stop me and insist on coloring up. They explain that it's to maintain their supply of chips, but I think it might be a casino policy to help them track.
I am not sure I understand. :confused: How do they stop you and insist?? Do they jump over the table and physically detain you, forcing you to give up what is your property, not theirs, as you paid for those chips?? As for the dealer explaining anything, they better have their running shoes on, because when I decide to leave, I leave. I don't stand around to discuss anything. :laugh:
 

Sucker

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flyingwind said:
Sometimes when I try to bolt, even if I'm only carrying away a stack of 7 green chips, the dealers will stop me and insist on coloring up. They explain that it's to maintain their supply of chips, but I think it might be a casino policy to help them track.

Other dealers seem to really hate iwhen a stack of their chips are taken away from the table.
Although the color-up process CAN help a lazy floorperson track a player, that really is NOT the reason. The dealers ARE telling you the truth. When their rack gets low on chips, they have to order more frequent fills, which costs the casino time & therefore money. I've seen many a dealer get scolded for letting someone get away without coloring up, even though it often is not their fault.

When I want to bolt without a color-up, I usually just put on my "hard of hearing" act & walk away acting like I didn't hear anything at all. After hundreds or perhaps thousands of times doing this, I've yet to have someone actually chase after me.
 

flyingwind

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Sucker said:
Although the color-up process CAN help a lazy floorperson track a player, that really is NOT the reason. The dealers ARE telling you the truth. When their rack gets low on chips, they have to order more frequent fills, which costs the casino time & therefore money. I've seen many a dealer get scolded for letting someone get away without coloring up, even though it often is not their fault.

When I want to bolt without a color-up, I usually just put on my "hard of hearing" act & walk away acting like I didn't hear anything at all. After hundreds or perhaps thousands of times doing this, I've yet to have someone actually chase after me.
Guess I'm being too much of a Mr. Nice guy. Well, then again, there are stores that I frequent more regularly, and stores that I don't care about. I'd easily bolt at the stores I don't care about, but I think it's better to be nice at my regular stores.
 

shadroch

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flyingwind said:
Guess I'm being too much of a Mr. Nice guy. Well, then again, there are stores that I frequent more regularly, and stores that I don't care about. I'd easily bolt at the stores I don't care about, but I think it's better to be nice at my regular stores.

Tell them you are just taking a bathroom break and will be back shortly.
It might even keep you clocked in a bit longer for comps, as well.
 

blackjack avenger

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Possession is Nine-Tenths of the Law

With the stories floating around about various chip cashing/seizure issues. It would appear in general one should buy in for small amounts as needed unless there is a compelling; perhaps comps, reason to buy in for larger amounts.

If you want to stay off the radar try to buy in for amounts that are not called out. For most places this will be under $100.

If you want to play for comps buy in for an amount that gets called out when you give your card so you will get credit for your play. For most places this will be $100 and up. Even in this scenario I doubt there is much to be gained from a very large buy in. Something in the range of $100 to $500 should suffice if a green to moderate black action player. As others have stated a very large buy in with a small opening bet can raise eyebrows.

Is casino management foolish enough to think that if they harass winners then people will want to gamble? They are attacking the players illusion that they can win if they see other patrons harassed for winning.

:joker::whip:
 

flyingwind

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blackjack avenger said:
Is casino management foolish enough to think that if they harass winners then people will want to gamble? They are attacking the players illusion that they can win if they see other patrons harassed for winning.
I often feel heat, a stare down, or harassment when I'm coloring up after a big win. I don't think the pit bosses like winners.
 

tensplitter

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At my home casino I keep a couple purple $500 chips with me at all times (instead of carrying $1000 in cash). I buy in with one of the purple chips.

Buy in for $500 at a craps table, make a few pass or dont pass minimum bets, then color up there and leave. Then take the $500 chip to a blackjack table. You can explain that you won that much money in a hot roll in craps.
 
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