Best Way from NYC to AC

[Thunder]

Permit me to point out something to you, as you hasten to criticize me.

If you play a full-pay 9/6 JOB V.P. machine what is your expected return?

If you say anything remotely near 99.5% you are referring to the long-range expectation only ?

That high figure is heavily keyed to hitting a Royal Flush.

Obviously, if you play VP for a few minutes (or hours) you are very unlikely to hit one.

Similar to a Slots Jackpot, eh ?

So ... you ignore the Royal Flush.

Now your return is perhaps, at most, 95%

Similar to the slots, eh ?

The difference is that the higher the stakes are at slots the lower the House Advantage is.

That does not hold for V.P. that is already at Full-Pay.

Flash, permit me to respond and say that without the Royal Flush, your odds are better than 95% in fp 9/6 J o B vp. According to the Wizard of Odds http://wizardofodds.com/jacksorbetter/simple.html you only sacrifice roughly 2% of your edge by not being able to get a Royal Flush. In addition there is a fallacy with your argument. You neglect to mention that the 95% figure you get with slots, is also based on hitting the jackpot or best paying line. Without that, your odds drop quite a bit too. Anyway you slice it or dice it, VP is better.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Flash, permit me to respond and say that without the Royal Flush, your odds are better than 95% in fp 9/6 J o B vp. According to the Wizard of Odds http://wizardofodds.com/jacksorbetter/simple.html you only sacrifice roughly 2% of your edge by not being able to get a Royal Flush. In addition there is a fallacy with your argument. You neglect to mention that the 95% figure you get with slots, is also based on hitting the jackpot or best paying line. Without that, your odds drop quite a bit too. Anyway you slice it or dice it, VP is better.

You're absolutely correct mathematically. Just that the time you spend screwing with the coupon is -EV, as is anything that diverts you from your game plan. So I just dump it in the first machine I see where I can spend it in a couple of plays. Hit it for $500 once.

Getting back to the subject of transportation, even when I drive to AC I often take the jitney around, because the $2.25 is less expensive than the time it takes to park and get into the casino when the city is busy. The jitney takes you from front door to front door and you can be counting a table within 30 seconds.

 

[Thunder]

I often use the jitney to get around. I just wish they'd have transfers because there is nothing worse than going to a casino to find it totally packed and with terrible penetration and feeling like you wasted your money in addition to the time. I guess it's a risk you take with the casinos in the Brig. area. That's why if I'm going to go to the Borg, I've learned not to go at nights.

 

[21forme]

I've never used the jitney. I walk the Boardwalk (unless it's raining) and drive to/in the marina.

 

[shadroch]

Find a Roulette machine. With $19 in free play, you'd bet $9.25 on Red, $9.25 on black and .50 on the zero. Two spins and you'll have $18.50 or more in real cash.

 

[MAZ]

Heres the best deal, pick me up in NYC , I pay you $100 plus gas and all tolls. You keep your mouth shut about blackjack and don't annoy me for the length of the ride. When I'm done no matter the time I pay you $200 to bring me back plus gas and tolls. Same rules, any takers?

 

[Thunder]

Find a Roulette machine. With $19 in free play, you'd bet $9.25 on Red, $9.25 on black and .50 on the zero. Two spins and you'll have $18.50 or more in real cash.

Great idea. It would actually only be 1 spin.

 

[Thunder]

Heres the best deal, pick me up in NYC , I pay you $100 plus gas and all tolls. You keep your mouth shut about blackjack and don't annoy me for the length of the ride. When I'm done no matter the time I pay you $200 to bring me back plus gas and tolls. Same rules, any takers?

Lol!!

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Great idea. It would actually only be 1 spin.

No no no, here's a much better way to play it.

Put your $20 voucher in a $10 slot machine. Bet it on 2 lines.

Then wait for a nice looking girl to walk by.

"Excuse me, could you help me with something here?"

"Yeah?"

"I'd like you to spin my machine for me. You look like a lucky person."

"[giggle] Me, lucky? Are you sure?"

"Well you're talking to me tonight, aren't you? You're the luckiest girl in this casino."

"[more giggle, blush] Well, OK... [spins reels]"

No pay.

"Oh well, sorry. Hey do you play slots all the time, or do you have some other game..."


Trust me on this one dude, you'll forget all about the return on the machine. :eyepatch: