Blackjack's Death Count?

zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
Blackjack's Death Count
Is the total casino management of MindPlay killing 21?

by MARC COOPER | LA Weekly

BILOXI, MISS. - The future of blackjack has been revealed and it's ugly. As legalized gambling continues to blossom, with a record 73 million Americans expected to visit a casino before the end of this year, the industry's managers are scrambling to stack the odds on the simple card game of 21 ever more in their favor.
... continued - http://www.laweekly.com/ink/06/03/cooper-blackjack.php (Archive copy)
 
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Victoria

Well-Known Member
The ploppy is still the king

So why since the advent of Mindplay21 has it not spread all over Vegas like 6/5 blackjack or hitting soft 17?
I think the answer so far is obvious. The average player, not even understanding that the thing can cheat him, just does not want to play at a table with a new gizmo and has voted against by not playing. No different, in that players mind, than playing with a CSM and that is why you do not see any CSM's on high limit tables.

Now can Mindplay be put into an area with no competition and plenty of players with success? I fear the answer is yes but so far, where there is competition, it has been a failure in my opinion.

Victoria
 
LV Bear

LV Bear

Administrator
MindPlay is useless

I have played more hours and won far more money at Reno's Eldorado (MindPlay's ooriginal development partner) since the installation of MindPlay than I did before MindPlay.

Despite the phony sales hype, it is useless for weeding out skilled players. Flamingo Las Vegas has removed MindPlay. MindPlay can be declared a failure.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
"MindPlay useless"... IRONIC...

->"I have played more hours and won far more money at Reno's Eldorado (MindPlay's original development partner) since the installation of MindPlay than I did before MindPlay."<-
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... considering some of your rants err growls and the litigation. zg
 
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The Mayor

Well-Known Member
The purpose of Mindplay

The real purpose of Mindplay has always been to streamline comps. Identifying players at the correct level for their comps is far more valuable to casinos than catching a few card counters. That it has as a side effect the ability to assist in catching counters is what we were fighting. But, that was never its purpose. The problem is that the cost is very high, so the gain in "correct comping" is not necessarily worth the price. It does not seem to be catching on, that should be the clue.

On the other hand, at least downtown, several stores are advertising that "all blackjacks pay 3:2."

Now, if only those cowboys would get out of town. I'm afraid of cowboys.

--Mayor
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
"cowboys"...

-->"Now, if only those cowboys would get out of town. I'm afraid of cowboys."
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You should be dressing like one right now - you could play at all the places that no longer allow Professor Mayor to play at! zg(thinks Eliot would make a good cowboy!)
 
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Victoria

Well-Known Member
The other main purpose

Besides the reduction in comps, Mindplay was sold to the casinos (not to the staff) as a way to reduce both pit and survielance staff. A casino which reduces staff based upon dependance on a device like Mindplay, can become subject to many forms of advantage play.
 
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Easy Money

Member
Who woulda ever thought - "Eliot the bronc buster"

zg(thinks Eliot would make a good cowboy!)

...and with a big wad of chew in his cheek, he'll be able to spread 'till the cows really do come home. Don't forget to use an empty beer bottle for a spittoon.
 
LV Bear

LV Bear

Administrator
True comedy

At first, I was a vocal opponent of MindPlay. Now I don't care about it. I'd rather play against MindPlay than against a grizzled veteran pit boss who dislikes skilled players. MindPlay is only as good as the employees using it. The few casinos using MindPlay think they can spend even less time and effort to recruit, train and motivate their pit employees. At many stores, pit staff is at an all-time low as to knowledge and interest in their jobs. This permits aggressive play that wouldn't have been possible even a few years ago.

I repeat: Despite the phony sales hype, MindPlay is useless for weeding out skilled players.

Though MindPlay is good at reducing the comps awarded to ploppies, it can be declared a failure at stopping skilled players,
 
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