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DeliMeATs

DeliMeATs

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Like I stated before there's enough resources a person could use to overcome those learning curve without spending any money.
 
sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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money, yes. time?, not so much, & time, imho is way more valuable than money, as long as you have money, lol.
a good mentor will save one loads of time, compared to one doing independent research. also, a really good mentor will lay just the right golden nuggets in ones nugget to make one really get it.
 
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Morphy

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sagefr0g said:
money, yes. time?, not so much, & time, imho is way more valuable than money, as long as you have money, lol.
a good mentor will save one loads of time, compared to one doing independent research. also, a really good mentor will lay just the right golden nuggets in ones nugget to make one really get it.
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I agree with this line. All the information is out there, but its time and prioritization. I am brand new at this (3 months in) and having someone like Meistro is like having a lifeline.
I am currently working on getting my index numbers down and building a bankroll. And I occasionally stalk the black jack tables at my local store, you should see me just when i am about to Wong in, my testicles shrivel up and i run out the front door. lol
 
sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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your trepidation is not without merit, imho.
here is what i hope for you. that you not allow yourself to suffer too much pain, too much damage in your efforts to realize gain.
card counting blackjack these days, offers only a small advantage. it's a difficult grind and doubtless the halls of its endeavor are lined with those who have failed.
from my perspective it takes a relatively huge bankroll, exposed to imho relatively huge fluctuation, within the relatively small long term risk. there are other simpler more advantageous modes of realization of advantage within the walls of the casino and without those walls.
point being, you shall learn and what you shall learn shall have imho, vast value, not so much in the specifics of what you learn, or even whatever monetary gain is existent visa- vs card counting,(edit: but wisdom in decision making, far more important than knowledge, (but you still have knowledge)), but in the very simple underlying value of obtaining a mind set that seeks and is able to find advantage.
 
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moo321

moo321

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Fuck it, I'll give it a try. I charge a lot more for training than $10 an hour, and Meistro looks like he can tell his has from a hole in the ground.

I don't want to co-ordinate Skype, so just make a video entitled "How to Get Away With Counting" and tell me everything you want to tell me about how to play and not get busted. I'll gladly give you $20 per hour of material up to, say, 10 hours.
 
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Meistro

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also do you want this video sent to you privately or do you want me to just upload it on youtube and post it publicly?
 
sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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moo afforded a pizza towards me (free roll) in some joint. so i owe him. if moo chooses public, i'll cough up the $5, next time i see him.:cool:
 
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Fenix

Fenix

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I'm willing to pay if you can help with something kinda specific. I'd like to play in such a way that it doesn't look like a counter. Obviously I can't fool computers, but I'd like to fool anyone looking at my play. I can mix a few gambits together and not look obvious when playing pitch games, but most of the gambits go out the window on shoes. How do I raise my bet with the count in a shoe game without it looking like that's what I'm doing?
 
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Meistro

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refrain from raising on losses or lowering on wins but only really really good shoe games are even worth using betting cover in the first place and you should virtually never use playing cover.
 
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Meistro

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the only playing cover I might suggest is if you are playing two hands and the true count is +2 you should insure one and only one if it is a good hand and the other is not. and take even money at TC +1 or higher.
 
Fenix

Fenix

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sagefr0g said:
@ Fenix,
are you referring to the grifter's gambit, when you wrote of gambits and double deck?
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I was mostly referring to like Sklansky's gambit. I've never actually used Grifter's gambit. In my googling just now, I found a post on how to use Grifter's in 6D shoes. Woohoo. I might try it if I can figure out how to sim it.
 
sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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Fenix said:
I was mostly referring to like Sklansky's gambit. I've never actually used Grifter's gambit. In my googling just now, I found a post on how to use Grifter's in 6D shoes. Woohoo. I might try it if I can figure out how to sim it.
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ahh, i was just curious if grifter's gambit was the gambit you were referring to.
definitely a good idea to sim it.
i have no idea how it may work for 6D.
but i do know there have been posters such as automatic monkey, that thought it was better for DD.
the grifter is around here at times, hopefully he may comment.
 
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Meistro

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ok great I should be able to get that done for you by tomorrow I've got to leave for work pretty soon but I've already written up a script I want to add a few more things / think about the things I have written so far and then I'll shoot the video, upload it and share the link here
 
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Morphy

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moo321 said:
Fuck it, I'll give it a try. I charge a lot more for training than $10 an hour, and Meistro looks like he can tell his has from a hole in the ground.

I don't want to co-ordinate Skype, so just make a video entitled "How to Get Away With Counting" and tell me everything you want to tell me about how to play and not get busted. I'll gladly give you $20 per hour of material up to, say, 10 hours.
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he is a strong chess player to, if you don't mind me adding.
 
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