Chat Guest: Anthony Curtis, July 29th 2010, 9 PM Eastern

[aslan]

It never shows class to bad mouth someone and then when the time comes to confront them and give them a chance to defend themselves to be nowhere to be found, that is not class, it is called crass.

The stated purpose of the session was not to entertain complaints. When the proper time comes, I am sure Shad will confront Anthony, as according to him, he tried to repeatedly in the past.

It would be crass if the allegations turn out to be false, but not if they turn out to be true. Anthony can always appear here in the forum for the sole purpose of settling the disagreement with Shad if he so wishes.

Meanwhile, I prefer to put a good construction on Shad's actions. It is always best to think the best of someone when you don't have all the facts. He is a Blackjackinfo Forum member, and until he is proven wrong, we should not be quick to pass judgment. And that goes for Anthony as well; it is possible that this is all a big misunderstanding.

 

[zengrifter]

Curtis explained himself well as to the issue Shad had, and all agreed he was correct in his actions.

Huh?

 

[creeping panther]

Aslan

The stated purpose of the session was not to entertain complaints. When the proper time comes, I am sure Shad will confront Anthony, as according to him, he tried to repeatedly in the past.

It would be crass if the allegations turn out to be false, but not if they turn out to be true. Anthony can always appear here in the forum for the sole purpose of settling the disagreement with Shad if he so wishes.

Meanwhile, I prefer to put a good construction on Shad's actions. It is always best to think the best of someone when you don't have all the facts. He is a Blackjackinfo Forum member, and until he is proven wrong, we should not be quick to pass judgment. And that goes for Anthony as well; it is possible that this is all a big misunderstanding.

Shad started it and Curtis stated he was aware of his comments and was upset over them and desired a face off at the chat. Curtis was ready to go at it then and there, his opponent never showed, Curtis wins. There will be no rematch as it has not been earned.

CP

 

[aslan]

Shad started it and Curtis stated he was aware of his comments and was upset over them and desired a face off at the chat. Curtis was ready to go at it then and there, his opponent never showed, Curtis wins. There will be no rematch as it has not been earned.

CP

Unfortunately, he did not make his desire to have a face off at the chat known prior to the chat. Why be so quick to declare a winner, and does there have to be a winner in the settling of human differences? Let's just hope for a peaceful and amiable conclusion to this matter.

 

[creeping panther]

Aslan

Unfortunately, he did not make his desire to have a face off at the chat known prior to the chat. Why be so quick to declare a winner, and does there have to be a winner in the settling of human differences? Let's just hope for a peaceful and amiable conclusion to this matter.

Case dismissed due to failure of complainant to appear at the appointed time to state his case and to face the accused.

CP

 

[kewljason]

Curtis explained himself well as to the issue Shad had, and all agreed he was correct in his actions. In fact he made it clear he was looking forward to a debate with Shad and an open airing of the complaint, issues.

It never shows class to bad mouth someone and then when the time comes to confront them and give them a chance to defend themselves to be nowhere to be found, that is not class, it is called crass.

Overall I enjoyed the chat and Curtis was very honest in his answers, very fine overall.

I guess some will have to wait a while for that $1 monorail ride to the casino where they will then bet $200 a hand:laugh::laugh:

CP

I disagree. These chats are a chance for members of the site to discuss a topic and learn from the chat guest. They are not meant to hash out some disagreement over services between two parties, nor for the entertainment of the rest of us. That should be done in private between the two parties.

As for your last comment, I don't really get the point of it. I guess some sort of jab at me? I don't know. I already know about the $1 monorail rides. It is a valuable tool to help keep expenses down, regardless of what level one bets at. Especially for someone who moves around alot and may play a dozen or more stores in a given day. I was just using that as an example of the type of useful information I was hoping Mr Curtis might share, since he is somewhat of an expert on Las Vegas and bargains.

 

[zengrifter]

Case dismissed due to failure of complainant to appear at the appointed time to state his case and to face the accused.

Objection, your honor! Curtis specifically said in chat that he knew "some people are angry... I'm willing to discuss." He deferred to future tense. And I speculate that he'd like nothing better than to resolve.

He's "one of the good guys" - One ONLY hears good things about Anthony Curtis, except this thing that Shad saw happen to "several members" allegedly.

So this matter must be continued, if it pleases the court. zg

 

[shadroch]

I didn't attend the chat because I don't attend any chats. Had Mr Curtis let it be known ahead of time he wanted to talk to me, I still couldn't have been there as I was working that night. If Mr Curtis wishs to engage me in a public discussion of this matter, I'm all for it. Anyone who could arrainge such a public airing of the grievence, please do so. Just make it at a time we can mutually agree on.
I asked if this chat was going to moderated because if it was, I would have submitted a question to him. I never recieved any indication that such questions would be taken in advance. I also didn't want to start a flame war and ruin what might have been a useful chat session for many people.
Having my character questioned by creeping panther is laughable.
I have fully stated my problems with AC. Evidently he is aware of them. He has my phone number and email address. He's welcome to call me or PM me here, or call me out on a public thread. He ignored both my calls and emails for months. If he is willing to make a good faith effort to settle this matter, in private or in public, I am all for it. Anyone that can faciltate this, your help would be appreciated. I'd love for AC to bring along the uncensored, unedited versions of several threads that he's removed from his site.

 

[shadroch]

Is there a transcript of this chat? I'd like to read what AC said about it that had everyone in agreement that he handled the situation properly, or is this just creepy confusing his imagination with reality yet again?

 

[creeping panther]

Chats

I disagree. These chats are a chance for members of the site to discuss a topic and learn from the chat guest. They are not meant to hash out some disagreement over services between two parties, nor for the entertainment of the rest of us. That should be done in private between the two parties.

As for your last comment, I don't really get the point of it. I guess some sort of jab at me? I don't know. I already know about the $1 monorail rides. It is a valuable tool to help keep expenses down, regardless of what level one bets at. Especially for someone who moves around alot and may play a dozen or more stores in a given day. I was just using that as an example of the type of useful information I was hoping Mr Curtis might share, since he is somewhat of an expert on Las Vegas and bargains.

Yes, I agree, we discuss many topics and learn many things over a wide range. Most chat guests have powerfull personalities, are not...boring, so one would hope this leads to a what can and should be very stimulating conversations. Maybe you prefer a dry, sterile lecture lab, on let us say the art of throwing a spit ball.................



CP

 

[creeping panther]

Chat

Is there a transcript of this chat? I'd like to read what AC said about it that had everyone in agreement that he handled the situation properly, or is this just creepy confusing his imagination with reality yet again?

Your absence says it all,,"No Mas":laugh::laugh::laugh:

You sadly let so many down.

CP

 

[creeping panther]

zen

Objection, your honor! Curtis specifically said in chat that he knew "some people are angry... I'm willing to discuss." He deferred to future tense. And I speculate that he'd like nothing better than to resolve. zg

He's "one of the good guys" - One ONLY hears good things about Anthony Curtis, except this thing that Shad saw happen to "several members" allegedly.

So this matter must be continued, if it pleases the court. zg

If this be the case I nominate the "Honorable Kim Lee" to act as presiding judge to decide the issue after hearing both sides. However, the problem being, one side makes charges and does not appear to back them up or face the accused. I believe Shad should be fined for non-appearance and forced to sell his newly "acquired" Gi Joe aircraft carrier and turn the proceeds over to Mr. Curtis for slander. But if "The Honorable Kim Lee" takes the case that will be his decision as I am biased for reasons of my close friendship with the plaintiff.:yikes::grin:

CP

 

[creeping panther]

Shad

I didn't attend the chat because I don't attend any chats. Had Mr Curtis let it be known ahead of time he wanted to talk to me, I still couldn't have been there as I was working that night. If Mr Curtis wishs to engage me in a public discussion of this matter, I'm all for it. Anyone who could arrainge such a public airing of the grievence, please do so. Just make it at a time we can mutually agree on.
I asked if this chat was going to moderated because if it was, I would have submitted a question to him. I never recieved any indication that such questions would be taken in advance. I also didn't want to start a flame war and ruin what might have been a useful chat session for many people.
Having my character questioned by creeping panther is laughable.
I have fully stated my problems with AC. Evidently he is aware of them. He has my phone number and email address. He's welcome to call me or PM me here, or call me out on a public thread. He ignored both my calls and emails for months. If he is willing to make a good faith effort to settle this matter, in private or in public, I am all for it. Anyone that can faciltate this, your help would be appreciated. I'd love for AC to bring along the uncensored, unedited versions of several threads that he's removed from his site.

You must be kidding! You had your chance, it was clear so many there were fully expecting you to take Mr. C to task,, and so stated, in fact that may be why close to 30 attended.

BTW, how much again do you claim he owes you? $15??:laugh:

CP

 

[Machinist]

Dammit!!

I missed the chat session with anthony!!.... Sage even texted me to let me know... I still missed it!!! Frick!!!!
So if i am getting this right.... Shad has a problem with coupons from the LVA? Anthony is a hustler that made it to the other side and is doing quite well at it... I think if i was in his shoes i wouldn't bother with the "world" that i left behind... He has a business to run!!!
Poor bastard doesn't have 2 minutes to himself anymore...Try holding a business together...it aint fun!!
Shad's problem and the other people that got banned are just a pimple on his back... Kind of annoying but will eventually go away..
Move on people!!!!! Take advantage of what he has yet to offer....:whip:
Better yet start your own business competing with him......that'll teach him..:laugh::laugh:
Such trivial matters...kinda like 1 dollar tram rides...All nice but not really relevant..Kinda like free buffets....who gives a fuk after thousands of them....
Let's just move on and keep jabbing at the stores....like the fleas we are...some of us just bite a lot harder:whip:

Machinist

 

[kewljason]

Maybe you prefer a dry, sterile lecture lab, on let us say the art of throwing a spit ball.................
CP

No, but I do prefer to stay on the topic of blackjack and advantage play. That is the reason I visit the site blackjackinfo.com. I have yet to figure out what your purpose for visiting the site is? I guess for your own personal entertainment value. While you possess a great deal of knowledge on the subjects that the site was intended for, your posts generally are not on topic, nor contribute to the discussion. More often than not, you are starting or fanning some controversy with your clever little snide underlined remarks and jabs usually directed at one of the few people not in your clique.

You are very quick to judge people and always want to hand pick the judge and jury for these controversies that you create. Usually "the honorable Kim Lee". :laugh: While, I have no problem with Mr Lee and actually enjoyed my private conversations with him, I rarely see him inject himself into these situations.

I also find it interesting that the one time he did so, when I spoke with him in private at your urguing, because you questioned my claims, you choose not to except "the honorable Kim Lee's" opinion because it different from your own. So I guess you want to pick the judge, but only if he will rule in your favor. :laugh:

 

[creeping panther]

Honorable Kim Lee

No, but I do prefer to stay on the topic of blackjack and advantage play. That is the reason I visit the site blackjackinfo.com. I have yet to figure out what your purpose for visiting the site is? I guess for your own personal entertainment value. While you possess a great deal of knowledge on the subjects that the site was intended for, your posts generally are not on topic, nor contribute to the discussion. More often than not, you are starting or fanning some controversy with your clever little snide underlined remarks and jabs usually directed at one of the few people not in your clique.

You are very quick to judge people and always want to hand pick the judge and jury for these controversies that you create. Usually "the honorable Kim Lee". :laugh: While, I have no problem with Mr Lee and actually enjoyed my private conversations with him, I rarely see him inject himself into these situations.

I also find it interesting that the one time he did so, when I spoke with him in private at your urguing, because you questioned my claims, you choose not to except "the honorable Kim Lee's" opinion because it different from your own. So I guess you want to pick the judge, but only if he will rule in your favor. :laugh:

KJ,

You are mistaken. I always "accept" his findings, even in your case, because of the caveats he placed in the findings, based on the info only you provided, unsubstantiated all...... which you choose to overlook.

Do not overlook my work in sponsoring the "BJ BASH" which I believe, and many may agree, is the single best thing that has happened on this site for forming lasting bonds of friendship, comraderie, networking, and true real time learning of advantage play of all types. An event you have been invited to participate in but always choose to not attend,,,,hmmm.

CP

 

[zengrifter]

Is there a transcript of this chat? I'd like to read what AC said about it that had everyone in agreement that he handled the situation properly, or is this just creepy confusing his imagination with reality yet again?

"some people are angry... I'm willing to discuss." - AC

 

[shadroch]

"some people are angry... I'm willing to discuss." - AC

I can only hope he is a man of his word, and returns here to discuss it. I'd happily discuss it on his board, only he has banned me.

 

[prankster]

I'm glad I attended. AC was down to earth and answered every question.:joker:

 

[zengrifter]

I can only hope he is a man of his word, and returns here to discuss it. I'd happily discuss it on his board, only he has banned me.

We need a BJINFO volunteer - someone who is a LVA member and/or Ken or another mod (King Stork?) - please reach out to AC and request that this issue be addressed "somehow".

Shad - lets serve the greater good by acknowledging that it isn't just all about YOU - rather all affected parties that you have referred to in subject incident (even if you don't know them). Lets call it the "Matchplay Coupon Criticism Incident". zg