Correct spread and bet ramp for 1000 unit BR

[kewljason]

I'm glad you recognized that you were failing at the discipline part. As I and many others have said, being an AP in blackjack is far more than just counting. Aside from the actual counting, you need to be proficient at money management, discipline, somewhat socially adept, and it helps a lot if you have an understanding of statistics. Things like standard deviation, correlation, mean, distribution, etc are words the AP knows and uses frequently.

I don't know that being socially adept is a mandatory qualification. I play alone as much as possible and even when I am not playing alone.....I am playing alone. :laugh: Other people at the table? really? never noticed them. :laugh: besides, if ya don't play well with others whats the worse case scenario? Lot's of throw-downs. :laugh: (just funning big cat!)

 

[Thunder]

I don't know that being socially adept is a mandatory qualification. I play alone as much as possible and even when I am not playing alone.....I am playing alone. :laugh: Other people at the table? really? never noticed them. :laugh: besides, if ya don't play well with others whats the worse case scenario? Lot's of throw-downs. :laugh: (just funning big cat!)

It's not a mandatory qualification, but it certainly helps in the way of camouflage. It also allows you to have a bigger arsenal to draw from.

 

[FLASH1296]

Additionaly:

If your Max bet is 12 unit … what are you doing betting 2 x 7 ?

The correct 2 hand play is 2 x 9.

More correct, perhaps, is 2 x 8 or 2 x 10, as odd amounts should be avoided.

 

[Coyote]

Additionaly:

If your Max bet is 12 unit … what are you doing betting 2 x 7 ?

The correct 2 hand play is 2 x 9.

More correct, perhaps, is 2 x 8 or 2 x 10, as odd amounts should be avoided.

Flash, should odd amounts be avoided in all bet ramps? 2 deck, 6 and 8 deck tables?

Coyote

 

[FLASH1296]

This is NOT an important issue.

Even amounts are preferred — not for mathematical reasons, but for camouflage purposes.

Most just plain run of the mill pedestrian quotidian everyday ploppy players tend to bet even amounts.

It also reduces dealer resentments as even chip amounts are quicker and easier bets to pay off.

 

[Coyote]

This is NOT an important issue.

Even amounts are preferred — not for mathematical reasons, but for camouflage purposes.

Most just plain run of the mill pedestrian quotidian everyday ploppy players tend to bet even amounts.

It also reduces dealer resentments as even chip amounts are quicker and easier bets to pay off.

Makes sence. I will look at my bet ramps and adjust accordingly.
Thank you Flash!

Coyote

 

[Midwestern]

since i posted this thread, i had another thread discussing BR, ROR, and Kelly bet sizing. What i mainly wanted to make sure was that i wasn't oversizing my bet at low TC and undersizing at high TC.

i have since adjusted my spread to 1,5,12,16 (which is the kelly bet equivalent in units for my expected edge at each TC) and I've Had MUCH better results.

Last night i played about 5 shoes with no real variance to speak of, up 10 units, down 10 units, and then i got a heater on my 6th. RC +7 on the first hand, and never dipped back down below +3. Obviously this got really good towards the end of the shoe.
I hadn't seen the dealer place the cut card, but per my estimation there must have been 90% pen on this shoe (as opposed to usual 75%) because i started playing two hands as soon as i thought that this shoe was almost over. I was betting 2x10 and winning my big bets (including a very interesting hand of 99 v dealer 9 which i split, got 19 on one and got a 2 on the other for a Dbl..dealer busted on that hand.)

Left the shoe +80 units, up about 70 on the day and immediately walked over to the carny texas holdem game to lay some cover and chat it up with a pretty dealer. that was some of the best game ive played in a long time, and i dont just mean the Blackjack :cool2:

 

[BJgenius007]

i have since adjusted my spread to 1,5,12,16 (which is the kelly bet equivalent in units for my expected edge at each TC) and I've Had MUCH better results.

You bet 12 units on TC +3? That is pretty high, isn't it? I mean, did you get any heat when you ramp your bet so quickly?

 

[Midwestern]

You bet 12 units on TC +3? That is pretty high, isn't it? I mean, did you get any heat when you ramp your bet so quickly?

it is sort of high... but its definitely important to get your max bet out there by TC 3 or 4. I don't think the spread is too high, but it's certainly not conservative either. Truth is, +3 is very rare and you had better bet enough to take advantage of it, or else your bets at TC1 will chew you up (there is a 0% advantage at just around TC1)

on the spread...i dont PERCEIVE any heat... but that might not mean that i'm not getting any.

my base unit is still $5, so even my biggest bets fall under "checks play"
also, i usually wong in at TC 1 so i open with a $25 bet (making my spread look like 1-3ish).

i think since this is my local store that i have a good table image. i lost a lot of $ in my last visit (as described earlier in the thread), and i chat up dealers quite a bit so i think the pitbosses dont mind me and don't quite have me pinned as a counter just yet.