CV Drills

[bjcount]

After checking out the demo version of Casino Verite, Can someone tell me if the complete version offers the other strategies in the drills such as those by Revere?

Also, in an attempt to help my wife she left my copy of Reveres Blue Booklet (advanced Strag. for RPC) out on the deck and the rain did a number on it. Does anyone have a copy for sale? I ordered one from L.R.Ltd. 2 weeks ago but no one has picked up the email, their phone, or their payment.

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[BJinNJ]

Casino Verite includes many strategies...

and if yours isn't included, you can make it a "custom" strategy.

Perhaps Norm W. can shed light on setting up Revere's strategies in CV.

BJinNJ

 

[QFIT]

After checking out the demo version of Casino Verite, Can someone tell me if the complete version offers the other strategies in the drills such as those by Revere?

Also, in an attempt to help my wife she left my copy of Reveres Blue Booklet (advanced Strag. for RPC) out on the deck and the rain did a number on it. Does anyone have a copy for sale? I ordered one from L.R.Ltd. 2 weeks ago but no one has picked up the email, their phone, or their payment.

Thanks in advance for your help.

I can supply the CV tables for RPC if you can prove you have bought the tables. I got them from Revere himself in his living room. But, I won't violate copyrights.

 

[zengrifter]

After checking out the demo version of Casino Verite, Can someone tell me if the complete version offers the other strategies in the drills such as those by Revere?

Also, in an attempt to help my wife she left my copy of Reveres Blue Booklet (advanced Strag. for RPC) out on the deck and the rain did a number on it. Does anyone have a copy for sale? I ordered one from L.R.Ltd. 2 weeks ago but no one has picked up the email, their phone, or their payment.

Do NOT repurchase, data misleading or otherwise incorrect.

How much of it have you committed to memory?

How fast are you with the count?

I assume we are talking RPC and not RAPC?

zg

 

[bjcount]

Do NOT repurchase, data misleading or otherwise incorrect.

How much of it have you committed to memory?

How fast are you with the count?

I assume we are talking RPC and not RAPC?

zg

The booklet was a hand me down from my father. When he saw me studying the RPC indices from Reveres PBasABus, he gave us the booklet. I was in the process of writing out flash cards when it was left out on the deck and it all was ruined, cards, booklet, (and he was PISSED, he gave cards up years ago, bought a boat and rod instead). So at this point there is no way I can show QFIT proof of the purchase.

I have the 1d count down to 28-30 sec w/ 100% accuracy...but still working on it.

And yes it is for the RPC, not the RAPC.

So you are saying I should cancel my order for the replacement? Reveres website takes paypal and the payment still has not been claimed.

By Qfits reply, I have to guess that Revere Limited would not permit them to use their systems in Casino Verite program?

 

[BJinNJ]

From Qfit's website...

a list of strategies in CV:

http://www.qfit.com/card_counting_systems.htm

Seek and ye shall find.

BJinNJ

 

[QFIT]

By Qfits reply, I have to guess that Revere Limited would not permit them to use their systems in Casino Verite program?

For some reason, Revere no longer answers my calls I will assume you had the book.

 

[zengrifter]

For some reason, Revere no longer answers my calls

Try a seance. zg

 

[sagefr0g]

Try a seance. zg

or his sister maybe?

 

[zengrifter]

After checking out the demo version of Casino Verite, Can someone tell me if the complete version offers the other strategies in the drills such as those by Revere?

Also, in an attempt to help my wife she left my copy of Reveres Blue Booklet (advanced Strag. for RPC) out on the deck and the rain did a number on it. Does anyone have a copy for sale? I ordered one from L.R.Ltd. 2 weeks ago but no one has picked up the email, their phone, or their payment.

Thanks in advance for your help.

I recommend that you purchase the CV for the drills and get a set of 4D matrices for RPC, which will suffice as a 'composit' set good for any# decks and rules - after you round them per the ZGI (below).

If you don't feel entirely invested already in the RPC, however, then switch to ZEN or Mentor NOW.

A final thought, regarding true-count adjustment: Revere used the 1/2D TC calibration for his indices and we are recommwending that you use either 1D or 2D calibration for the TC.

Regarding the speed of your count, shoot for consistent 20 secs with drill. zg

 

[bjcount]

I recommend that you purchase the CV for the drills and get a set of 4D matrices for RPC, which will suffice as a 'composit' set good for any# decks and rules - after you round them per the ZGI (below).

If you don't feel entirely invested already in the RPC, however, then switch to ZEN or Mentor NOW.

A final thought, regarding true-count adjustment: Revere used the 1/2D TC calibration for his indices and we are recommwending that you use either 1D or 2D calibration for the TC.

Regarding the speed of your count, shoot for consistent 20 secs with drill. zg

Purchased CV, waiting for the software.
The 4d matrices are in the book which I have been studying have about 40 of them down ... A2.A3 DD and keep missing the ls during practice. Guess its hard to surrender.

At first I was converting TC by 1/2 decks, but I found it almost impossible to get the spread up to even 1-8 unless the shoe was really +. Changed to 1d conversion after a while. Wouldn't conversion to 2d be highly risky as the TC would be high vs the actual number of high cards per deck still available?

If we were at 5d remaining and the rc was +10 which is the equivalent of 5 extra T&A in a total of 260 cards, wouldn't the bet be excessive with a TC of 4 (say 6 units)?

I would say I am being a little conservative after I read through Blackjack Attack chapter 10 the SCORE section, but at the beginning of a 4/6 shoe I would hesitate to go in at 6 units.

Still working on speeding up my count, hopefully CV will help me out.

 

[bjcount]

or his sister maybe?

She hasn't answered either.......

 

[zengrifter]

At first I was converting TC by 1/2 decks, but I found it almost impossible to get the spread up to even 1-8 unless the shoe was really +. Changed to 1d conversion after a while.

So you recalibrated the Revere indices? zg

 

[bjcount]

So you recalibrated the Revere indices? zg

Unfortunately or maybe fortunately, no. Without the experience to change them or the programs, I wouldn't know where to begin.

After reading some 20+ books written by the Masters and not some masters of BJ over the past few months, and nearly every page of advantageplayer.com, these forums, & bj21.com's forums, many of the info given is leading to a point that the minimal changes to indexing is not worth all the trouble. Some even go as far to say that rounding a group of indexes to make them committed to memory easier will benefit the player more by eliminating any chance of player error. The small gain received by +1, +2 differential would be negligable.

If I had all the correct numbers I would change all my cards. Is there some simple formula, or is a CV product required that I would have to purchase to refigure the indices?

 

[QFIT]

At first I was converting TC by 1/2 decks, but I found it almost impossible to get the spread up to even 1-8 unless the shoe was really +. Changed to 1d conversion after a while. Wouldn't conversion to 2d be highly risky as the TC would be high vs the actual number of high cards per deck still available?

You can't do this. If you change the method of TC conversion, you must adjust the betting and indexes so there is no change.

 

[bjcount]

You can't do this. If you change the method of TC conversion, you must adjust the betting and indexes so there is no change.

I am not sure what you mean when you say "so there is no change". Do you mean it as a change in how the counting system works?

Changing to 1d tc conversion about 4 months back using the same indexes and betting in this manner:
+1 2units
+2 3u
+3 4u
+4 6u
+5 8u or 2h x 6u ea when possible(rarely on 4/6)

having netted 20% profit in 8 out of 10 visits at 6-8 hour per visit, play all
(4/6) each visit.

Understanding that the sd is probably working for me at this point in time, I would not consider that too bad a run.

Having the correct indexes for the TC conv of 1d would settle my mind that I am using the mathematically correct numbers. I remember reading in one Masters book about using different TC conversions, maybe it was in Blackjack for Blood, but I do not recall there being a formula to convert the indexes.
Any Help?

 

[QFIT]

I am not sure what you mean when you say "so there is no change". Do you mean it as a change in how the counting system works?

Changing to 1d tc conversion about 4 months back using the same indexes and betting in this manner:
+1 2units
+2 3u
+3 4u
+4 6u
+5 8u or 2h x 6u ea when possible(rarely on 4/6)

having netted 20% profit in 8 out of 10 visits at 6-8 hour per visit, play all
(4/6) each visit.

Understanding that the sd is probably working for me at this point in time, I would not consider that too bad a run.

Having the correct indexes for the TC conv of 1d would settle my mind that I am using the mathematically correct numbers. I remember reading in one Masters book about using different TC conversions, maybe it was in Blackjack for Blood, but I do not recall there being a formula to convert the indexes.
Any Help?

Why are you attempting to change a strategy? RPC is RPC. If you change the TC calculation divisor, you are causing substantial damage to the strategy unless you also adjust both the betting and indexes to reflect that change. And if you change all three, you are really back where you were in the first place in terms of performance.

 

[bjcount]

Why are you attempting to change a strategy? RPC is RPC. If you change the TC calculation divisor, you are causing substantial damage to the strategy unless you also adjust both the betting and indexes to reflect that change. And if you change all three, you are really back where you were in the first place in terms of performance.

On the east coast we mainly have 6d-8d games. Since the RC is less volatile, I thought by changing the TC conversion it would not only change how much I am betting based on +TC but also increase the instances when the bet can be raised since the index point would be hit more often. It was not to foul up the entire strategy.

Would you suggest it better to maintain the 1/2d conversion and double up my units or to run a sim that can show how my changes effect the strategy? (I do not have the software to run sims)

 

[QFIT]

On the east coast we mainly have 6d-8d games. Since the RC is less volatile, I thought by changing the TC conversion it would not only change how much I am betting based on +TC but also increase the instances when the bet can be raised since the index point would be hit more often. It was not to foul up the entire strategy.

Would you suggest it better to maintain the 1/2d conversion and double up my units or to run a sim that can show how my changes effect the strategy? (I do not have the software to run sims)

It looks like you are spreading 1-8. You must spread more with 6-8 decks.

 

[bjcount]

It looks like you are spreading 1-8. You must spread more with 6-8 decks.

I am no expert, nor mathematician, but I have read maybe too much lately.

Every book says if you go to a 1-12 or 1-16 spread it may bring in too much heat. So that means jumping your bets instead of parlaying - result - more heat. You would need 5 wins in a row to get a 16 unit by parlaying and how often do you win 6 in a row? It seems fruitless or too great a ROR.

If the RPC indices is good for 4 decks or more with no modification, is it really as efficient or effective as it could be on a 6d or 8d game? I would have to assume something in the numbers change.

I thought by changes the TC conversion it would allow the spread to be lower while providing more opportunities to bring out the higher bet without the heat, because the index numbers would be hit more often then not. Again it may effect the ROR, but so far in the short time that I have changed the TC conversion it has worked out better for me. (probably an sd thing).

Here is one example: A-2 dd v 3 has an index of 5. In a 6d how often do you get to a +5TC with a 1/2d conv? At 3d discard, you have to have a +30rc to even consider it. I have seen more -30rc then even +20's. So I looked at this way, if I try 1d conversion, +15rc comes by a bit more often, but not that often. Why not see how it works out. My bet is not at 12 or 16 units but a more respectable and less oven searing 1-6units, 2 hands when required or possible.

Without running a sim for proof of the actual effect, it is all speculative by all sides but makes for a good debate.

All this because I asked a simple question if someone had a copy of the RPC bluebooklet for sale and why the RPC indices were not in CV...

Boy you guys really know how put some one on the defensive. I'll take all you got... come on...put them dukes up!