Delaware Casinos

Thunder

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The one major advantage AC has

These joints in PA and DE aren't likely to give you comped rooms and food I don't think. Something to think about if you're trying to make a good run at it. Also another thing to think about... if you show up and suddenly they've changed their rules or made the game worse, you're $%#^& (unless you are lucky enough to live right nearby), whereas in AC you can be at the next casino in a minute. Also does anyone know if these places can 86 you?
 
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aslan

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Thunder said:
These joints in PA and DE aren't likely to give you comped rooms and food I don't think. Something to think about if you're trying to make a good run at it. Also another thing to think about... if you show up and suddenly they've changed their rules or made the game worse, you're $%#^& (unless you are lucky enough to live right nearby), whereas in AC you can be at the next casino in a minute. Also does anyone know if these places can 86 you?
Well, that's the chance you take. They already seem to be changing the better 6 deck games in AC to 8 deck. But there, at least, you can still beat the pavement looking for better pen or what-have-you. The games in DEL are new, the dealers and PCs are inexperienced and offer beaucoup opportunities for the enterprising and talented AP, and it's only a short drive to other DEL casinos or to AC. Comps? If I can beat the games, I will be happy--for one thing, it's close enough I don't have to stay overnight. I can return home and even come back the following day without that much discomfort. In fact, I like getting completely away from the casinos between sessions. As for "can they 86 you?" any casino outside of New Jersey can 86 you so far as I know. You may get to be the honored person who gets to take the proposition to court and possibly get a favorable verdict in the tradition of the legendary Ken Uston. And lastly, the more people frequent the DEL, PA, and WVA casinos, the more competition will be fostered, bringing favorable changes to the AC casinos. It's a WIN-WIN. Unless you work for the AC casinos, Thunder, I'd say it's a no-brainer to visit all the other casinos closer to you than AC. We'll see you there!
 

am19psu

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Thunder said:
These joints in PA and DE aren't likely to give you comped rooms and food I don't think. Something to think about if you're trying to make a good run at it. Also another thing to think about... if you show up and suddenly they've changed their rules or made the game worse, you're $%#^& (unless you are lucky enough to live right nearby), whereas in AC you can be at the next casino in a minute. Also does anyone know if these places can 86 you?
At the very least, Delaware Park, Harrah's Chester, and Parx (aka Philadelphia Park) can't comp you a room because there are no hotels on site.
 

Thunder

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Aside from the disadvantages it has to AC in terms of amenities, I think Delaware is going to be the BJ capital of the east soon. :) That's all I can say on here :grin:.
 
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Thunder

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Delaware Park

If you were thinking of going Monday or Tuesday, they will only be having $5 tables with a table max of $25.
 

MJ1

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Thunder said:
Aside from the disadvantages it has to AC in terms of amenities, I think Delaware is going to be the BJ capital of the east soon. :) That's all I can say on here :grin:.
Do you know what the rules are going to be?
 

aslan

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MJ1 said:
Do you know what the rules are going to be?
At Harrington, DE they were:

S17, DAS, DOA, SA1, split other to 4 hands, no surrender, 6- & 8-deck. 6-deck high roller area only ($25, $50, $100)

Presumably, they will be the same at DP and DD.
 

am19psu

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aslan said:
At Harrington, DE they were:

S17, DAS, DOA, SA1, split other to 4 hands, no surrender, 6- & 8-deck. 6-deck high roller area only ($25, $50, $100)

Presumably, they will be the same at DP and DD.
What was the minimum on the main floor, if you don't mind me asking?
 

am19psu

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aslan said:
At Harrington, DE they were:

S17, DAS, DOA, SA1, split other to 4 hands, no surrender, 6- & 8-deck. 6-deck high roller area only ($25, $50, $100)

Presumably, they will be the same at DP and DD.
DP has better rules for the BS player, but all CSMs (at least for the first few months, according to pit guy I spoke to).

S17, DAS, DOA, SA3, split others infinitely, LS, 6-deck. Oh and one other weird rule I saw: no splitting tens.
 
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FLASH1296

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The way you posted : "S17, DAS, DOA, SA3, split others infinitely, LS, 6-deck."

makes it appear that you were referencing the good rules at the C S M's but you included "6 decks"

Clarify this please.
 

am19psu

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FLASH1296 said:
The way you posted : "S17, DAS, DOA, SA3, split others infinitely, LS, 6-deck."

makes it appear that you were referencing the good rules at the C S M's but you included "6 decks"

Clarify this please.
There are six decks in the CSM (branded as One2Six). They usually reload the CSM after about 1-1.5 decks, at least that's the way it worked tonight.

Or am I being a noob about the difference between a CSM and an ASM?

EDIT: I see what you mean now. All of the tables currently are CSMs that hold six decks.
 
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aslan

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am19psu said:
DP has better rules for the BS player, but all CSMs (at least for the first few months, according to pit guy I spoke to).

S17, DAS, DOA, SA3, split others infinitely, LS, 6-deck. Oh and one other weird rule I saw: no splitting tens.
Yuk!
 

misterac

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Delaware Park

Found one pleasent surprise last night, they offer early surrender. If it wasn't for the CSM's it would be a great place to play. The dealers I played with were all very slow, hands took forever. They were fairly competent, I didn't see any mispays at all. There were about six BJ tables on each floor, with 2 15's and 4 25's. Was there around midnight, it wan't real busy.
 

bj bob

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misterac said:
Found one pleasent surprise last night, they offer early surrender. If it wasn't for the CSM's it would be a great place to play.
You sure about ES? Even with the CSM's, that would make those games a neg. HA of .19. Please explain your definition of ES vs. LS.
 

FLASH1296

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Defining our terms

In case you are still confused:

EARLY Surrender means that the player may surrender ½ of his wager
BEFORE the dealer checks his hole card for Blackjack.
  • Before the dealer “peeks”, is “Early“ Surrender.
  • After the dealer “peeks”, is “Late“ Surrender.
My hunch is that this C S M game offers Late Surrender.
If there is Early Surrender, it is NOT against the dealer‘s ACE.
We call that (hybrid rule) “ES10“ — common in some venues abroad.
 
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Thunder

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I knew it was too good to be true. Thank you for saving me a trip. I was all set to go last week but had something come up.
 

FLASH1296

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Am I the only character here who is confused ?

Might not be the first time. :grin:

I have been assuming that at higher stakes there will be normal BJ games.

Will someone clarify this, so that I can cancel my motel reservations if need be.

Obviously, I would never play against a Continuous Shuffling Monstrosity.

Actually a friend is headed to Delaware Park tomorrow, and staying for several days.

I am just a bit impatient is all.
 

am19psu

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FLASH1296 said:
Am I the only character here who is confused ?

Might not be the first time. :grin:

I have been assuming that at higher stakes there will be normal BJ games.

Will someone clarify this, so that I can cancel my motel reservations if need be.

Obviously, I would never play against a Continuous Shuffling Monstrosity.

Actually a friend is headed to Delaware Park tomorrow, and staying for several days.

I am just a bit impatient is all.
This guy says the high limit room has shoes. They weren't open a week ago when I was there.
 

NightOwl

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2 tables in the HL pit, no csm's. The minimums Friday night were $50 and $100. Unique layout on the felt, each spot was actually 2 adjoining circles, similar to bj switch, which allowed each player to play 2 hands on one spot.
 
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