Do not deviate from your strategy

CriminalMind

New Member
Personally, I take a "whatever gets you through the night" approach to progression systems.

If believing in your betting strategy is what gives you the internal strength to make a play, then use whatever tools and tactics necessary, so long as you accept the risks that go along with it.

I think the problem with most of these strategies is the impatience of the player employing them. Deviating from my structure was my biggest downfall in my earlier years. I would hit a bad losing streak and chase my money by making bigger bets, but basically employing the same strategies (I would wrongly argue with myself). However, bigger bets during a long streak still ends up amounting to bigger losses.

Now I am extremely strict with my betting regimen. It's not even so much a system than a feeling. But if I'm on a rush, and I get beat, I hide in my hole with a min bet all over again until I find the internal strength to bounce back.

I guess that's pretty much the point of these things, isn't it? It's a crutch.
 

SleightOfHand

Well-Known Member
Your "strategy" to playing this game is no different from a person that min bets the entire time except you will lose faster due to higher avg bet. Do yourself a favor and screw the progressions. Of course this depends on your plans for the game. If you have more fun playing the progression and you can afford to lose your money, have a blast. But don't thunkthat you can actually beat the game. The game is not beatable with progressions alone
 

Koseao

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SleightOfHand said:
Your "strategy" to playing this game is no different from a person that min bets the entire time except you will lose faster due to higher avg bet. Do yourself a favor and screw the progressions. Of course this depends on your plans for the game. If you have more fun playing the progression and you can afford to lose your money, have a blast. But don't thunkthat you can actually beat the game. The game is not beatable with progressions alone
What do you mean that the game is not beatable with progressions alone? I up my bet based on my count. At a certain number my bet will go up and at a certain number my bet will go down. I am pretty new so my base bet is 5. So are you talking about if I continue this path I will not be able to make a profit? So far I have done well, but I am always wanting to go up. If my counts upwards of 30 should I screw my plan and bet more than the scale I set should? Sorry if this makes no sense, I am new and trying to sort it all out :)
 

Canceler

Well-Known Member
If the amount of your bet is determined by whether you won or lost the last hand (or x number of hands) then you’re probably playing a progression.

Koseao said:
I up my bet based on my count. At a certain number my bet will go up and at a certain number my bet will go down.
You’re fine! :)
 

StandardDeviant

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Koseao said:
What do you mean that the game is not beatable with progressions alone?
If you play the game with progressions alone, you are playing with a negative expectation. There is no combination of betting progressions that turns a negative game into a positive one.
 

picasso

Banned
StandardDeviant said:
If you play the game with progressions alone, you are playing with a negative expectation. There is no combination of betting progressions that turns a negative game into a positive one.
Sorry, I do not agree. I have played Blackjack now for a very long time employing many progressions (mostly the negative progressions) and I have a lifetime profit. I see you coming...LUCK.

I now win consistently, I'm very confident in my method given the right playing conditions. Say what you want, think what you want, but at the months end, I have more money in my pocket book. Facts beat fiction.
 

StandardDeviant

Well-Known Member
picasso said:
Sorry, I do not agree. I have played Blackjack now for a very long time employing many progressions (mostly the negative progressions) and I have a lifetime profit. I see you coming...LUCK.

I now win consistently, I'm very confident in my method given the right playing conditions. Say what you want, think what you want, but at the months end, I have more money in my pocket book. Facts beat fiction.
Please continue to play the way you do. I need someone to put money into the casinos' pockets so I can take it back out. I have not yet played in Canada, but now I am on my way.
 

picasso

Banned
StandardDeviant said:
Please continue to play the way you do. I need someone to put money into the casinos' pockets so I can take it back out. I have not yet played in Canada, but now I am on my way.
I do not play in Canada anymore because my conditions are not meet there. I strictly play online, I now play in England good old chap.
 

StandardDeviant

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picasso said:
I do not play in Canada anymore because my conditions are not meet there. I strictly play online, I now play in England good old chap.
I look forward to playing in Montreal and Quebec. I will be playing my own form of progressive system - the one where I make progressively more, and those around me fund the enterprise.
 

StandardDeviant

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picasso said:
Facts beat fiction.
Yes it does. Show me the mathematical proof that you beat the game of BJ solely based on a betting scheme, and I will buy you dinner at the place of your choosing anywhere on the planet.
 

Koseao

Well-Known Member
My Hero

StandardDeviant said:
I look forward to playing in Montreal and Quebec. I will be playing my own form of progressive system - the one where I make progressively more, and those around me fund the enterprise.
Is there a book on this system, I would love to read it. It sounds like something I am interested in :laugh: I love when others fund the enterprise.
 

Koseao

Well-Known Member
StandardDeviant said:
Yes it does. Show me the mathematical proof that you beat the game of BJ solely based on a betting scheme, and I will buy you dinner at the place of your choosing anywhere on the planet.
If I can show you that you CAN'T beat the game of BJ solely based on a betting scheme, will you buy me dinner anywhere on the planet? :grin: I am kinda a picky eater, so I was thinking something like really good seafood. :)
 

picasso

Banned
StandardDeviant said:
Yes it does. Show me the mathematical proof that you beat the game of BJ solely based on a betting scheme, and I will buy you dinner at the place of your choosing anywhere on the planet.
The fact is the $$, the fiction is your math.

In other words, the proof is in the pudding!
 

StandardDeviant

Well-Known Member
Koseao said:
If I can show you that you CAN'T beat the game of BJ solely based on a betting scheme, will you buy me dinner anywhere on the planet? :grin: I am kinda a picky eater, so I was thinking something like really good seafood. :)
If you can show me that, I'll by you dinner on another planet. You have to get there first to collect your meal ticket! :grin:
 

StandardDeviant

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picasso said:
The fact is the $$, the fiction is your math.

In other words, the proof is in the pudding!
I suppose you are right after all -- the money is the proof. I played craps the other day, bought in with $100, and left the table about 10 minutes later with $2000. I was using what I call the "flat progressive system," betting the same amount on each roll. I have won every time since I started use this system at craps. I used the same system the last time I played baccarat, and I doubled my money in about 5 minutes. I've even seen this system work in the slots, but I have to admit it doesn't work every time there.

These books that talk about winning BJ based on mathematical principles are, I'm convinced, written by the casinos! The authors fool people who think they are smart, but who really aren't, into playing more often, and with more money than they would otherwise. This is how casinos make their money.

Everyone on this site talks about being 86'ed for counting, but I've never seen it happen. I'm convinced that never happens either. Why would a casino kick out its most profitable players?

:laugh:
 

daddybo

Well-Known Member
StandardDeviant said:
These books that talk about winning BJ based on mathematical principles are, I'm convinced, written by the casinos! The authors fool people who think they are smart, but who really aren't, into playing more often, and with more money than they would otherwise. This is how casinos make their money.

Everyone on this site talks about being 86'ed for counting, but I've never seen it happen. I'm convinced that never happens either. Why would a casino kick out its most profitable players?

:laugh:
You're kidding. Right? :rolleyes:
 

picasso

Banned
StandardDeviant said:
Yes, I'm kidding. I couldn't figure out which smiley to use. Maybe I should have used this one...:joker:
Or this one


Thats my CHICKEN DINNER! :laugh:
 
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