It isnt advantegous in terms of EV to do this, but there are possible reasons to do it for a cheap cover play.
Doubling after Splitting Aces
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It isnt advantegous in terms of EV to do this, but there are possible reasons to do it for a cheap cover play.
cargirl4413
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doubling aces
i fell prey to this exact situation at that casino and got burned on both aces.
i fell prey to this exact situation at that casino and got burned on both aces.
Sonny
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I don't recall the exact hands where doubling for less is the best move, but Wong covers it in Basic Blackjack.
-Sonny-
If this is the same doubling rule in the other thread then here's what I think:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=4310&page=2
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=4310&page=2
How could it be better to double for less? It is either +EV to add more money or not. If it is +EV then you bet as much as is allowed, which is equal to your bet amount.
supercoolmancool
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Not so fast. You don't want to over bet your bankroll. Kelly betting is the most +EV strategy ever. If you already have a max bet out and it is 11VA you may want to double for less or not double at all. Your advantage on that play does not warrant 2 max bets.
sagefr0g
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so the lesson learned is one should have a max bet in relation to ones bankroll and ROR that supports doubling and splitting and doubling the splits when basic strategy dictates those actions.
sagefr0g
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if i recall correctly one is 12 vs 10 for one dollar. cover play. i believe Renzey refered to it.
Not theoretically the best play, but it can be if you NEED cover...
hitthestiff!
Member
Isn't it obvious to the pitbosses that this is a cover play? I would think it would only draw attention to the player that he is trying to cover himself...
sagefr0g
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it may or may not be. and yea it'll definately draw attention in joints that the dealer yells out DOUBLING ON A HARD 12 in :laugh:
i've never done it but i get a kick out of it when other players do it. especially when they win the hand :devil:
Isn't it obvious to the pit that you're counting because your bets are going up and down with the count? They know how to count too...
hitthestiff!
Member
I suppose in either case it could be obvious to the pit...but why then use doubling on 12 as a cover, since it is such an obvious waste of money? For fun yes but if it draws unwanted attention than it defeats the purpose. Yes?
sagefr0g
Well-Known Member
well it's supposed to be an attention drawing cover play with all minds in the pit and at the table thinking look what this bone head is doing
there may be some suspicion in the minds of the pit but if your overall act is good enough you might just fool them.
hitthestiff!
Member
Gotcha, I think I will wear my Billybob teeth and shabby overalls to add to the effect, when I pull this stunt!
No seriously thanks for the explanation.
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