First Card is an Ace stragedy!

[Cardcounter]

First card is an ace is a promotion given to you by a Casino it gives you the first card is an ace. The promotion usually restricts your bet to maximum bet well under the table max the most I have been able to bet with the coupon was $25. Always bet the max that the coupon will allow not doing so will give up the biggest advantage that you will ever have in a single hand. A lot of the time a tie will save your coupon for the next hand this can be very valuable too you. That can change the basic stragedy of how to play your hand. You might want to go with a ties win blackjack stragedy of hitting out hard 12 vs a 4 and hitting a hard 13 vs a 2. Other wise the stragedy stays the same especially if doubling is restricted to 10-11.

 

[alwayssplitaces]

First card is an ace is a promotion given to you by a Casino it gives you the first card is an ace. The promotion usually restricts your bet to maximum bet well under the table max the most I have been able to bet with the coupon was $25. Always bet the max that the coupon will allow not doing so will give up the biggest advantage that you will ever have in a single hand. A lot of the time a tie will save your coupon for the next hand this can be very valuable too you. That can change the basic stragedy of how to play your hand. You might want to go with a ties win blackjack stragedy of hitting out hard 12 vs a 4 and hitting a hard 13 vs a 2. Other wise the stragedy stays the same especially if doubling is restricted to 10-11.

With an ace, a 10 is a soft 20 and a 11 is a soft 21 a.k.a. blackjack. You'd almost never double those hands.

 

[21gunsalute]

I really hope you're just joking around with the word "stragedy".

 

[aslan]

I really hope you're just joking around with the word "stragedy".

Definition

stradegy

(1) A plan of action or policy designed so as not to achieve a desirable major or overall aim. A plan doomed from the start with serious consequences for failure.

(2) The art of planning and directing overall military operations and movements in a war or battle that results in major casualties and equipment/property losses.

 

[Cardcounter]

Ok I get it I misspelled "Strategy" but I was serious about the strategy changes of hitting a 12 vs a 4 and a 13 vs a 2 because making a hand of 17-21 is more valuable with this coupon because you keep the coupon on a tie that can give you an advantage on the next hand too!

 

[aslan]

First card is an ace is a promotion given to you by a Casino it gives you the first card is an ace. The promotion usually restricts your bet to maximum bet well under the table max the most I have been able to bet with the coupon was $25. Always bet the max that the coupon will allow not doing so will give up the biggest advantage that you will ever have in a single hand. A lot of the time a tie will save your coupon for the next hand this can be very valuable too you. That can change the basic stragedy of how to play your hand. You might want to go with a ties win blackjack stragedy of hitting out hard 12 vs a 4 and hitting a hard 13 vs a 2. Other wise the stragedy stays the same especially if doubling is restricted to 10-11.

I could be wrong, but I don't think a tie for saving the ace coupon trumps the correct winning strategy for the plays you mention, except where the indexes prescribe those plays, especially since the promotion restricts the max bet to so little.

PS-- I did not mean to offend with the tease on the spelling. I hope you were not offended, and if you were, I apologize.

 

[Cardcounter]

Did you know that a first card is an ace coupon with a $25 bet and a zero count first hand of the deck has a higher expected value than a $500 bet with a count of plus 4. Not to mention it is less risky. The low max bet does not effect how you should play the hand. It effects what you will win on the hand not how it should be played. The coupon gives you about a 47% advantage a plus 4 count gives you about a 2% advantage.

 

[aslan]

Did you know that a first card is an ace coupon with a $25 bet and a zero count first hand of the deck has a higher expected value than a $500 bet with a count of plus 4. Not to mention it is less risky. The low max bet does not effect how you should play the hand. It effects what you will win on the hand not how it should be played. The coupon gives you about a 47% advantage a plus 4 count gives you about a 2% advantage.

Well then I guess you answered your own question.

But aren't your chances of pushing pretty slim? So you're making a losing play in the hopes of a tiny chance you will push? I guess you have to figure the chance of pushing the hand vs. the chances of winning by making the correct play without regard to the coupon. Is it more than a 47% chances you will fail to push and retain the coupon? It's already decided you will probably lose the hand by hitting, and the vast majority of times you will also not push. If you know the answer in precise mathematical terms, tell us. Won't I fail to push 91.5% of the time? I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[aslan]

So if I can straighten out my thinking on this, if I chase the coupon, aren't I increasing my chances of losing the present hand for a 8.5% chance of pushing that will give me a 47% advantage on the next hand?

PS-- I think sometimes you should hit a hard 12 against a dealer 4 in a zero count regardless.

 

[AC232323]

So if I can straighten out my thinking on this, if I chase the coupon, aren't I increasing my chances of losing the present hand for a 8.5% chance of pushing that will give me a 73.5% chance of winning the next hand?

First card ace wins 73.5% of the time???

 

[aslan]

First card ace wins 73.5% of the time???

No, since part of the 47% advantage is based on the increased chance of hitting a blackjack. I think. :laugh:

 

[Cardcounter]

So if I can straighten out my thinking on this, if I chase the coupon, aren't I increasing my chances of losing the present hand for a 8.5% chance of pushing that will give me a 47% advantage on the next hand?

PS-- I think sometimes you should hit a hard 12 against a dealer 4 in a zero count regardless.

You have to understand that some basic strategy decisions are marginal decisions and can be changed with count or hand composition. For example hitting a 10-2 vs a 4 is the right decision against basic strategy but hitting a 9-3 is vs a 4 is a mistake especially in single deck. a 12 vs a 4 only cost you an average of 4% to hit but in this case a tie is 47% more valuable and hitting gives you a shot at a tie because you have a zero percent chance of tying with 12.
Hitting a 13 vs a 2 on average in a normal situation cost you 2% so in this situation it would gain you 4.25%! If you looked at a push as winning 47% of your bet.

 

[aslan]

You have to understand that some basic strategy decisions are marginal decisions and can be changed with count or hand composition.

But you stipulated a zero count so count does not matter. Right?

For example hitting a 10-2 vs a 4 is the right decision against basic strategy but hitting a 9-3 is vs a 4 is a mistake especially in single deck.V\

That's what I said in my PS.

a 12 vs a 4 only cost you an average of 4% to hit but in this case a tie is 47% more valuable and hitting gives you a shot at a tie because you have a zero percent chance of tying with 12.

Doe that mean you would be taking a 4% greater chance of losing the present hand in order to get an 8.5% chance at a 47% advantage situation?

Hitting a 13 vs a 2 on average in a normal situation cost you 2% so in this situation it would gain you 4.25%! If you looked at a push as winning 47% of your bet.

Does that mean you would be taking a 2% greater chance of losing the present hand in order to get an 8.5% chance at a 47% advantage situation.

I don't follow the 4.25%. Bear with me; I'm trying to learn something.

 

[Cardcounter]

The 8.5% chance of a push is before any cards have been dealt and the cards are random it is not assuming the first card that you got was an ace. Having a first card is an ace increases your chances of finishing the hand with a 17-21 so it increases the odds of pushing because these are the only hands that can push. A 12-16 can't push and a 22-26 can't push.

 

[aslan]

The 8.5% chance of a push is before any cards have been dealt and the cards are random it is not assuming the first card that you got was an ace. Having a first card is an ace increases your chances of finishing the hand with a 17-21 so it increases the odds of pushing because these are the only hands that can push. A 12-16 can't push and a 22-26 can't push.

So what then are your increased chances of receiving a push if your first card is an ace?

 

[bj bob]

First card is an ace is a promotion given to you by a Casino it gives you the first card is an ace. The promotion usually restricts your bet to maximum bet well under the table max the most I have been able to bet with the coupon was $25. Always bet the max that the coupon will allow not doing so will give up the biggest advantage that you will ever have in a single hand. A lot of the time a tie will save your coupon for the next hand this can be very valuable too you. That can change the basic stragedy of how to play your hand. You might want to go with a ties win blackjack stragedy of hitting out hard 12 vs a 4 and hitting a hard 13 vs a 2. Other wise the stragedy stays the same especially if doubling is restricted to 10-11.

Duh, let me guess. I bet this gimmick is offered around 1st and Lake.:joker: