forbidden goals

[sagefr0g]

i haven't taken the plunge (ie. haven't bought the book, lol) but i am curious.
goals with respect to blackjack has always held my interest.
here is a link for an at least partially goal driven strategy:
(Dead link: http://www.moststrategy.com/)
i say partially goal driven strategy because there is also supposedly some sort of bet increasing method used in conjunction with goals.

has anyone read this book?

whatever, i'm curious as i think i know (perhaps ICNT can help me with this) that in nature strange things can happen. such as in the quantum world where electrons in stable energy orbitals 'jump' to higher energy levels (perhaps unstable energy levels) in what is said to be a 'forbidden' process.
uhmm, i dunno i guess in my mind it's a similar idea to how we use levers and pulleys to lift weights that we would not normally be able to lift sort of thing. achieving goals by chipping away at it a very small amount at a time sort of thing, makes things easier, no?
i guess the question would be, can knowledge be used as a lever in blackjack?

 

[QFIT]

YAMM

Yet another money management fraud. Read his write-up. He finds patterns in a tiny number of hands and draws conclusions, then claims it's like financial arbitrage. And then goes on to talk about natural ebb and flow as if BJ has seasons.

 

[Canceler]

Somebody ought to register on that site, download the free Chapter 5, and tell us how they tested that system. Might be good for some laughs.

 

[sagefr0g]

YAMM

Yet another money management fraud. Read his write-up. He finds patterns in a tiny number of hands and draws conclusions, then claims it's like financial arbitrage. And then goes on to talk about natural ebb and flow as if BJ has seasons.

yeah, i noticed the tiny number of hands as well. then the author claims (if i recall correctly) that he's applied some sort of math to that number of hands played one way and then played another way.
the implication (if i'm understanding what he's trying to say) is that the proof is in the math not the number of hands.

 

[sagefr0g]

Somebody ought to register on that site, download the free Chapter 5, and tell us how they tested that system. Might be good for some laughs.

yah, well i did register and have the free chapters, still in the process of reading them.
far as i know from reading at this point he claims a mathematical proof and i doubt it will be presented in the free chapters.
edit: it would be nice if the author would allow one of our members a complimentary copy of the book for review.

 

[QFIT]

For any random set of cards, I can easily design a winning system and prove it in two manners. Of course it will only work for that set of cards. This is the problem with most of these systems.

 

[sagefr0g]

For any random set of cards, I can easily design a winning system and prove it in two manners. Of course it will only work for that set of cards. This is the problem with most of these systems.

i just read a bit more in the free chapters. lol, QFIT i think you once explained how ' exit sort of polls' kind of analysis is not useful for analysis of blackjack, erhh well in chapter two the author is using an exit poll sort of argument as part of his explanation.

 

[daddybo]

i just read a bit more in the free chapters. lol, QFIT i think you once explained how ' exit sort of polls' kind of analysis is not useful for analysis of blackjack, erhh well in chapter two the author is using an exit poll sort of argument as part of his explanation.

Sage, that higher level method of analysis is known as ATF(BJ)*. I am very experienced in that field. It is 100% reliable. Don't be fooled by naysayers. :whip:





*ATF(BJ) = After The Fact (Black Jack) analysis.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Hell, I saw "forbidden goals" and I thought this thread was going to be about the Sportsman's Double or something, not a bad BJ system.

 

[daddybo]

Hell, I saw "forbidden goals" and I thought this thread was going to be about the Sportsman's Double or something, not a bad BJ system.

Fooled me too! :laugh:

 

[sagefr0g]

Sage, that higher level method of analysis is known as ATF(BJ)*. I am very experienced in that field. It is 100% reliable. Don't be fooled by naysayers. :whip:

*ATF(BJ) = After The Fact (Black Jack) analysis.

hmmm, i'll go with that, assuming no errors in the analysis and assuming it was possible to know what really happened and why it happened.

what ever it's nice to be able to look at your results after some given number of rounds so as to determine where one lands up with respect to what theory says the range of results are likely to be, sort of thing.

on the same note it's maybe just me but i find it nice to be able to have some goal in mind and be able to theoretically project how likely the attainment of that goal is for some given number of hands.
say it's for real a goal, something you really want to attain.
maybe you achieve it, maybe not, but you can know how theoretically likely it would be. you can sort of gauge your progress even in the short run, even though maybe that means little or nothing in the long run, grand scheme of things.

having read the free chapters of the Moststrategy, i have to say i haven't the foggiest if the author is on to anything or not.
he seems to be saying there is some advantage to making exit strategy moves. i find his free chapters difficult to understand, i mean he can talk the talk that we all know has merit, but when it comes to explaining his exit strategy stuff and his bet boosting stuff, errhh well, far as i'm concerned, he doesn't do so satisfactorily in his free chapters.

 

[Katweezel]

YAMM

Yet another money management fraud. Read his write-up. He finds patterns in a tiny number of hands and draws conclusions, then claims it's like financial arbitrage. And then goes on to talk about natural ebb and flow as if BJ has seasons.

Hmmm. Blackjack seasons and natural ebb and flow, huh? YAMM should be on the Nature channel. ONOH, do casinos' cash accounts experience any recurring patterns of natural ebb and flow, like seasons? If so, I wonder why? Hmmmm.

 

[aslan]

hmmm, i'll go with that, assuming no errors in the analysis and assuming it was possible to know what really happened and why it happened.

what ever it's nice to be able to look at your results after some given number of rounds so as to determine where one lands up with respect to what theory says the range of results are likely to be, sort of thing.

on the same note it's maybe just me but i find it nice to be able to have some goal in mind and be able to theoretically project how likely the attainment of that goal is for some given number of hands.
say it's for real a goal, something you really want to attain.
maybe you achieve it, maybe not, but you can know how theoretically likely it would be. you can sort of gauge your progress even in the short run, even though maybe that means little or nothing in the long run, grand scheme of things.

having read the free chapters of the Moststrategy, i have to say i haven't the foggiest if the author is on to anything or not.
he seems to be saying there is some advantage to making exit strategy moves. i find his free chapters difficult to understand, i mean he can talk the talk that we all know has merit, but when it comes to explaining his exit strategy stuff and his bet boosting stuff, errhh well, far as i'm concerned, he doesn't do so satisfactorily in his free chapters.

Keep up the honorable quest, Sir Good Knight Froggy--I'm with you all the way. Who knows what is yet to be discovered? The apple is poised ready to fall-- "Eureka!"

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Quantum Blackjack--now I like that! Let us dream on, Oh Illustrious Shaman of the Marshlands! The never before seen fuzzy green swan is out there waiting for our fateful visit! Onward and upward and windmills be damned! Heck, there's just got to be something more........

 

[Canceler]

I think aslan is saying the same thing I’ve been thinking, but in a nicer, gentler, way than I would have put it.

 

[sagefr0g]

Keep up the honorable quest, Sir Good Knight Froggy--I'm with you all the way. Who knows what is yet to be discovered? The apple is poised ready to fall-- "Eureka!"

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Quantum Blackjack--now I like that! Let us dream on, Oh Illustrious Shaman of the Marshlands! The never before seen fuzzy green swan is out there waiting for our fateful visit! Onward and upward and windmills be damned! Heck, there's just got to be something more........

geesh! :laugh:

but ok quantum blackjack, errhh i don't know about that.
but i do like pondering over stuff that happens in nature and how that might relate to advantage stuff.

 

[Machinist]

okya doaky

We all might need a refresher course in basic math...1 + 1 = 2
Of course i never had any college..sooooooo,,,,, maybe i missed something..
Hey do we still have 9 planets in our solar system yet?? hmmmmm


Pure and simple....?

Machinist

 

[QFIT]

Hey do we still have 9 planets in our solar system yet?? hmmmmm


Pure and simple....?

Machinist

There are eight planets and five known dwarf planets.

 

[daddybo]

Pluto is still a planet in my Heart!

 

[aslan]

Pluto is still a planet in my Heart!

To me he'll always be Goofy's dog. :joker:

 

[aslan]

There are eight planets and five known dwarf planets.

I thought there were seven dwarfs. :whip: