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StandardDeviant

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Automatic Monkey said:
Then one of them started shouting that those chips rightfully belonged to them, and that's a dangerous situation when street people start convincing themselves that what's yours is theirs. Fortunately my shift was over soon and I got out of there.
That would freak me out big time. I'd be afraid they'd be stalking me later.
 

swamper8

Member
another question on Foxwoods rules, is the definition of "late surrender" that you can surrender at anytime prior to busting? Or can you no longer surrender once you receive the third card? Right now I'm thinking that once a third card is dealt surrender goes away.

Also, when following basic strategy tables, how do you make decisions once you've hit a third card? The strategy engine here as well as tables from multiple books I bought only show two card combos. For example, i just played a hand that was A-6 to the dealers 8. The table told me to hit so i did. I now have A-6-A. Do I now hit on it as if it were a 8 or do I stand on it as a 18?

And one more question (keep having more as I use the trainer), I know that after splitting aces I only get one card dealt per ace. But while using the trainer, it seems I only get one more card dealt after doubling down. Is this a general blackjack rule or foxwoods rule?
Thank you
 
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kewljason

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Surrender happens on your first two cards before you play out the hand. Early surrender is when you can surrender before the dealer checks for blackjack. This rule is rare now a days. Late surrender is when you can surrender after the dealer checks for blackjack. (more common and much less advantageous than early surrender)

Split aces and doubledowns only receive one card as a general rule. It is rare to find rules that are other than this.

The basic strategy rules apply to any number of cards, for the most part.
 
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Multi-card surrender would be a good deal for both the casinos and AP's. Too bad it's non-existent in BJ. Just another example of how dumb casinos are.
 

Mad Mally

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I just returned from a trip to foxwoods on saturday. I made $160 with a $40 buy in using basic strategy. Foe some reason I do much better at foxwoods then at Mohegan sun, even though they use less decks and have a lower minimum bet.
 

swamper8

Member
Mad Mally said:
I just returned from a trip to foxwoods on saturday. I made $160 with a $40 buy in using basic strategy. Foe some reason I do much better at foxwoods then at Mohegan sun, even though they use less decks and have a lower minimum bet.

That's nice to see that you returned with a profit but it's impossible to beat a casino CONSISTENTLY using basic strategy alone. You just happened to hit the table when it was hot. Casino's base all their moves assuming a player uses perfect basic strategy. Even if you do, they still hold like .5% advantage. Without counting cards you have no sure way of knowing when to increase and when to decrease your bets. So anyone who comes out ahead is strictly getting lucky. I've found that if I play the trainer on here for at least a hour at a time, I almost always come out about even steven. I follow a basic strategy table when I do it, sometimes I go down by as much as $80 but never more than that and sometimes I go up by as much as $40 but never really more than that. It starts you with $1000 and sure enough after 1 hour and after 2 hours I still am right around $1000. Congrats though, based on what I've read here, most people prefer Foxwoods over Mohegan Sun, particularly because the dealers at MS supposedly don't deal very far into the shoe.
 
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