gotta love the ploppies................
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ihate17
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I do love the novices, begginers and perhaps the ploppies
To me, the ploppy is the know it all on the table who knows near nothing but will share his lack of wisdom by trying to force it down your throat.
The thing about bad players that is most important on the financial end of things is they are certainly necessary if we are to continue to have beatable blackjack games. Imagine how little the house would make if 99%, instead of less than 1% of their players played basic strategy perfectly, and the other 1% were AP's. Blackjack would be gone or completely unbeatable. The house knows it will make 2-3% dealing blackjack today even though we here quote a house edge of .5%. At .5%, if that was all they made, would they want or be able to afford to pay dealers, pits, clerks and the eye, to have the game? The game would change or would be removed.
So call them novice, call them losers, call them ploppies or whatever, but without them we would not have our game, so give them some love.
ihate17
To me, the ploppy is the know it all on the table who knows near nothing but will share his lack of wisdom by trying to force it down your throat.
The thing about bad players that is most important on the financial end of things is they are certainly necessary if we are to continue to have beatable blackjack games. Imagine how little the house would make if 99%, instead of less than 1% of their players played basic strategy perfectly, and the other 1% were AP's. Blackjack would be gone or completely unbeatable. The house knows it will make 2-3% dealing blackjack today even though we here quote a house edge of .5%. At .5%, if that was all they made, would they want or be able to afford to pay dealers, pits, clerks and the eye, to have the game? The game would change or would be removed.
So call them novice, call them losers, call them ploppies or whatever, but without them we would not have our game, so give them some love.
ihate17
Mimosine
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yes but i was playing downtown vegas, which is technically a different country - as evident from the hourly motels nearby to where said woman and i were playing.EasyRhino said:
the next time some table lice does something dumb to irritate either myself or a friendly dealer, i'm going to tell them that i've seen a toothless basehead play better than them.
tonight is my last run at a local joint before i move away.... maybe i'll try it and see what happens!
aslan
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Dealer Ploppy
We had a dealer at the Borgata who strongly advised ploppies never to hit a 12 against a dealer 3 or 2. I guess there are ploppy dealers, too! Seems to me like that's a lot worse than being a player ploppy? I think they draft some of these dealers from broke players who can't pay their parking fees at AC casinos (At Borgota you have to pay $5 upon leaving).
We had a dealer at the Borgata who strongly advised ploppies never to hit a 12 against a dealer 3 or 2. I guess there are ploppy dealers, too! Seems to me like that's a lot worse than being a player ploppy? I think they draft some of these dealers from broke players who can't pay their parking fees at AC casinos (At Borgota you have to pay $5 upon leaving).
ihate17
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Dealers and pits
Saw a pit this past week tell a lady asking for advice that splitting her 2,2 vs dealer 5 was a very very bad play?
ihate17
Most dealers learn to deal at a dealer's school but learn how to play by watching the average players that they deal too, so figure it out.rogue1 said:
Saw a pit this past week tell a lady asking for advice that splitting her 2,2 vs dealer 5 was a very very bad play?
ihate17
aslan
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Yes. I had the distinct feeling when I was escaping monetary disaster this weekend, that the dealer was peeved because she couldn't bust my BR for the house. Only one of the dealers came across like that; I felt she would do something "unfair" to me if she had a chance. In fact, during the shuffling of the last shoe I played, I was talking to the pit, and hardly paying attention to the shuffle, but I had this gut feeling that something had been done to influence the order of the cards during the shuffle. It was just a funny feeling, like you can sense when someone is trying to get away with something. I played the first two rounds--terrible cards--then decided to retire from my 19 hour stint. Could have been I was just getting paranoid for lack of sleep, too. :grin:ChefJJ said:
EasyRhino
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From browsing a dealer messageboard, there is a subset of dealers that enjoys busting players that they don't like. This usually includes all non-tippers, as well as jerks. Of course, for the titanically overwhelming majority of dealers who feel this way, the impact of this is little more than bad mojo, unless the dealer is preferentially shuffling, intentionally making payout errors, or is a flat-out "mechanic".aslan said: