heat in Las Vegas

[desertwolf]

I am only a red chip player with a high bet of under $100, so I haven't experienced much heat during my 8 months of living and playing here. I am soon partnering with another player, who plays professionally (I am retired,supplementing) and will be combining bankrolls which will allow me to play a little higher stakes like the $25 tables. I am trying to adapt to his style of shorter sessions to avoid heat. I know he knows what he is talking about with this method, but, in listening to the gambling show on the radio last week, there was a guy, vinny who is a pit boss in vegas that was talking about less heat now here due to the recent reductions in pit workers. He claims there are fewer people in the pit and each person is now responsible for 8-12 games where they used to be responsible for 4, so they are not able to watch as closely and are less concerned about counters, especially at my level. Anyone know anything about this? Or know of this guy and if he is really a pit boss? Why are the casinos cutting down on personel? Economics? or are they concentrating more on technology and survaliance now? This seems like good news for card counters here. Maybe not at high limit $100 games.

 

[HockeXpert]

I am only a red chip player with a high bet of under $100, so I haven't experienced much heat during my 8 months of living and playing here. I am soon partnering with another player, who plays professionally (I am retired,supplementing) and will be combining bankrolls which will allow me to play a little higher stakes like the $25 tables. I am trying to adapt to his style of shorter sessions to avoid heat. I know he knows what he is talking about with this method, but, in listening to the gambling show on the radio last week, there was a guy, vinny who is a pit boss in vegas that was talking about less heat now here due to the recent reductions in pit workers. He claims there are fewer people in the pit and each person is now responsible for 8-12 games where they used to be responsible for 4, so they are not able to watch as closely and are less concerned about counters, especially at my level. Anyone know anything about this? Or know of this guy and if he is really a pit boss? Why are the casinos cutting down on personel? Economics? or are they concentrating more on technology and survaliance now? This seems like good news for card counters here. Maybe not at high limit $100 games.

Most of LV doesn't need sharp pc's. EITS can be your biggest threat to longevity. I'm sure the crew size reduction boils down to economics since they have to actually pay the pc's a decent wage since they don't share in the tips.

I wasn't aware of a reduction in crew size in LV. I thought it was in AC.

I didn't hear the radio show and don't know anything about this pc or how reliable this info is.

Good variance to you and KJ?:grin: I didn't know he was looking for partners.

 

[b jay cobbson]

Vegas floor and dual rates

How you been HockeXpert? Floor is a little thinner in Vegas. Also, they are making greater use of "dual rates" (people doing both floor and dealing) who tend to know even less about detecting CC play than full time floor people, the majority of which don't have a clue either.

Cobbson

 

[HockeXpert]

How you been HockeXpert? Floor is a little thinner in Vegas. Also, they are making greater use of "dual rates" (people doing both floor and dealing) who tend to know even less about detecting CC play than full time floor people, the majority of which don't have a clue either.

Cobbson

I'm doing fine, thanks. I hope you've been beating the heat this week. I was in Vegas about 2 months ago and I didn't notice any change.

Thanks for the update.

 

[shadroch]

How you been HockeXpert? Floor is a little thinner in Vegas. Also, they are making greater use of "dual rates" (people doing both floor and dealing) who tend to know even less about detecting CC play than full time floor people, the majority of which don't have a clue either.

Cobbson

I find dual rates more dangerous, as they are trying to prove they belong in the management side. Give me a ten year pitboss over a dual rate anyday.
A large part of my game is schmoozing the PB. It doesn't work on dualrates.

 

[moo321]

Back-counting is a good way to get money and have longevity in Vegas.

 

[Youk]

I am only a red chip player with a high bet of under $100, so I haven't experienced much heat during my 8 months of living and playing here. I am soon partnering with another player, who plays professionally (I am retired,supplementing) and will be combining bankrolls which will allow me to play a little higher stakes like the $25 tables. I am trying to adapt to his style of shorter sessions to avoid heat. I know he knows what he is talking about with this method, but, in listening to the gambling show on the radio last week, there was a guy, vinny who is a pit boss in vegas that was talking about less heat now here due to the recent reductions in pit workers. He claims there are fewer people in the pit and each person is now responsible for 8-12 games where they used to be responsible for 4, so they are not able to watch as closely and are less concerned about counters, especially at my level. Anyone know anything about this? Or know of this guy and if he is really a pit boss? Why are the casinos cutting down on personel? Economics? or are they concentrating more on technology and survaliance now? This seems like good news for card counters here. Maybe not at high limit $100 games.

I'm a little confused...you live in Vegas, and you play the games, but you don't know if there are less pit bosses who cover more than 4 games a table?

My bet is that they aren't putting more money into surveillance. Probably going with the utter minimum these days.

 

[flyingwind]

Back-counting is a good way to get money and have longevity in Vegas.

I've gotten nailed back counting in LV. Just be careful and figure out the right camo for it.

 

[tthree]

If your partner is a pro, every now and then you run into one that likes to be helpful. Wouldn't it be cool if he/she would be helpful in answering your question.

 

[Dyepaintball12]

Just fake your own death. No heat if they think you've died.

 

[21forme]

How come desertwolf wasn't banned - an accomplice in the deception?

 

[tthree]

How come desertwolf wasn't banned - an accomplice in the deception?

Apparently the casinos banned him for his contribution after his supposed outing. Karma is a bitch if you are one too.