how much info does the pit have on players?

[Matt147]

Recently, when I sat down at a table, the pit boss, after asking for my player's card, (I didn't have one since this was my first time in the casino, and I probably wasn't coming back so I didn't get one) looked me over carefully; he asked me if there was a white stripe on my jacket. He was looking at me to find some sort of identifying part of my clothing. what is the purpose of this? Do casino's have files on people who play without a player's card? just how much information do casinos have on players?

I am NOT an AP nor a counter whatsoever.

btw, this is my first post. I really enjoy reading this forum, but so far don't really have an interest in actually learning card counting; I have had lots of success recently playing EZ baccarat, however.

 

[21forme]

SOP. They identify your look in case you switch seats at the table, move around, etc. Nothing more sinister.

One time, I was staying over at a casino, played early evening, then the next morning. PB said to me, "were you wearing a blue shirt earlier?" I said, "yes, that was yesterday. I typically change clothes each day." :laugh:

 

[Sucker]

When people choose to not get rated, the floor people are still required at least LOOSELY keep track of their buy-ins, average bet, wins or losses; etc. This is mainly for accounting purposes, so usually it really is no big deal, unless you start to win a bunch and/or go south with a lot of chips. Or, if the dealers' rack becomes inexplicably low on chips it can help them to determine WHO at the table is going south. Or when he goes on break it can help his relief keep track of what's going on at the tables, especially when people (including the rated players) start changing seats or changing tables. And, as you suspect; there CAN be a malevolent method to their madness. If you do something to raise suspicion it will make it easier for them to keep an eye on you as you bounce around the casino.

IMO; what that floor man did was pretty much normal; other than the fact that it WAS rather creepy for him to be actually ASKING you what you're wearing. A less invasive approach would have made for a much better bedside manner on his part, and for a much more relaxing experience for all.

 

[ohbehave]

Also, they use the identifying remarks if you decide later that you want a players card they can credit you with your prior table time and wins/losses. Probably just for that session though.

 

[aslan]

SOP. They identify your look in case you switch seats at the table, move around, etc. Nothing more sinister.

One time, I was staying over at a casino, played early evening, then the next morning. PB said to me, "were you wearing a blue shirt earlier?" I said, "yes, that was yesterday. I typically change clothes each day." :laugh:

Except for you. For you only they most likely have two pictures, profile and portrait, estimated height, estimated weight, clothing, color shoes, color eyes, color hair, identifying marks, instructions to hold tapes for review, picture of car and license plate in parking lot, any persons accompanying you, and most importantly, instructions to watch this patron carefully and report any suspicious activity. :laugh::joker:

 

[rrwoods]

I've been asked what color shirt I'm wearing as well. Seems pretty standard.

 

[BrianCP]

I've been asked what color shirt I'm wearing as well. Seems pretty standard.

Shouldn't he be able to tell what color shirt you are wearing when he is right in front of you asking the question :laugh: ?

Probably not what you meant, but it made me chuckle.

 

[rrwoods]

Shouldn't he be able to tell what color shirt you are wearing when he is right in front of you asking the question :laugh: ?

Probably not what you meant, but it made me chuckle.

Nope, it's actually exactly what I meant There was nothing covering the shirt at all. "What color would you say your shirt is?" was the exact wording.

 

[Sharky]

colorblindness is 'relatively' common among males...around 5-7%...can't tell red from green

 

[shadroch]

colorblindness is 'relatively' common among males...around 5-7%...can't tell red from green

Anyone who can't tell red from green doesn't have much future in a BJ pit.

 

[21forme]

Anyone who can't tell red from green doesn't have much future in a BJ pit.

Perhaps, but there are probably disability and discrimination laws that apply.

 

[shadroch]

Perhaps, but there are probably disability and discrimination laws that apply.

The Federal Government tells me I am color blind. I've never noticed it in real life, but both in the Army and at a later date for another Federal agency, I failed their C.B. test.
Sadly, Social Security does not recognize color blindness as a disability.

 

[bigplayer]

Recently, when I sat down at a table, the pit boss, after asking for my player's card, (I didn't have one since this was my first time in the casino, and I probably wasn't coming back so I didn't get one) looked me over carefully; he asked me if there was a white stripe on my jacket. He was looking at me to find some sort of identifying part of my clothing. what is the purpose of this? Do casino's have files on people who play without a player's card? just how much information do casinos have on players?

I am NOT an AP nor a counter whatsoever.

btw, this is my first post. I really enjoy reading this forum, but so far don't really have an interest in actually learning card counting; I have had lots of success recently playing EZ baccarat, however.

It's just to identify you as you move around the casino for cash tracking and win/loss result purposes. If you play repeatedly unrated at a store eventually a players account will be created for you under some nickname that the pit creates for you. If you're rated the casino knows everything about you like whether you watch in-room porn, conspicuous jewelry or clothing, what you like to drink, where you like to eat, your comp status, your skill level, your overall worth to the bottom line, your win loss this year, last year, lifetime, last 6 months, etc.,what shows you like, etc. All of this data collected is used to customize offers sent to you in the attempt to get you and your wallet back in the future.

 

[21forme]

Sadly, Social Security does not recognize color blindness as a disability.

Because it does not prevent you from being employable. SS Disability has pretty stringent requirements.

 

[aslan]

Because it does not prevent you from being employable. SS Disability has pretty stringent requirements.

I think shadroch was kidding.

 

[shadroch]

I think shadroch was kidding.

Lets just say I wouldn't turn it down if it were offered.

 

[aslan]

Lets just say I wouldn't turn it down if it were offered.

Nor should you! The envy of my office was a fellow who became a GS-15 (with only a BA degree), flipped two homes within a year in the 70's for a quarter million dollars, then retired with an early out at age 48 due to some quirk in the regulations during a time when a normal early out was age 50. Last I heard he spent his time between Boston, where he was from, and Fort Lauderdale, where he spent a lot of time on his buddy's yacht. Some people seem to always be in the right place at the right time.

 

[Machinist]

Nor should you! The envy of my office was a fellow who became a GS-15 (with only a BA degree), flipped two homes within a year in the 70's for a quarter million dollars, then retired with an early out at age 48 due to some quirk in the regulations during a time when a normal early out was age 50. Last I heard he spent his time between Boston, where he was from, and Fort Lauderdale, where he spent a lot of time on his buddy's yacht. Some people seem to always be in the right place at the right time.

SEEM is the key word Aslan........Some prepare for that once in a life time chance.. Some make their "luck" happen by taking chances.....
Some one has has a signature alluding to chance taking on here....I like it.
But I know what ya mean with some people with a golden horseshoe up their a.....

Machinist

 

[MangoJ]

The Federal Government tells me I am color blind. I've never noticed it in real life, but both in the Army and at a later date for another Federal agency, I failed their C.B. test.
Sadly, Social Security does not recognize color blindness as a disability.

For me it's almost the same. Although I can see with both eyes, I have a very weak binocular vision. I newer knew until I took driving lessons . Still got my licence but would never take a job focused on driving.

It doesn't affect live that much. I can still estimate distances by parallax, but this only works well with moving objects (or static objects while moving the head like a monkey). Not a chance on that technique in those 3D cinema movies ...

 

[moo321]

Anyone who can't tell red from green doesn't have much future in a BJ pit.

You can tell what the chips are by the stripes or the number on the top.