Hypnosis And Card Counting

baperras

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Anybody ever consider the use of hypnosis to sharpen your card counting skills? If so, and you planning on heading to Vegas soon, please drop me a line.
 

zengrifter

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baperras said:
Anybody ever consider the use of hypnosis to sharpen your card counting skills? If so, and you planning on heading to Vegas soon, please drop me a line.
Yes, it can be a good combo. I mention NLP in the ZGI, below. zg
 

ihate17

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More advance uses, are they possible

My guess is you can use it on the pit.
My question is if there is a way to hypnotize the eye through the camera? A great AP move if possible.
A worry here though, if the hypnosis is achieved through the use of a pendent or other object, will that fall under the device law and land you in jail if caught?

ihate17
 

baperras

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I use a Progressive Relaxation technique to induce hypnosis in my clients prior to their playing. I work with many players in Vegas and throughout the country. Please private message me or email be directly at: baperras.at.cox.net
 
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bj bob

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ihate17 said:
A worry here though, if the hypnosis is achieved through the use of a pendent or other object, will that fall under the device law and land you in jail if caught?

ihate17
No prob there, 17. Just use the ice cube from your cocktail attached to the swizzle-stick. Both are provided by the house.:laugh: :laugh: Better yet, bring your girlfriend along, wearing a loose-knit sweater with no bra. Just make sure it's a male dealer, though.
 
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InPlay

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bj bob said:
No prob there, 17. Just use the ice cube from your cocktail attached to the swizzle-stick. Both are provided by the house.:laugh: :laugh: Better yet, bring your girlfriend along, wearing a loose-knit sweater with no bra. Just make sure it's a male dealer, though.
It would also work with a female dealer if she was a

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Sonny

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baperras said:
I use a Progressive Relaxation technique to induce hypnosis in my clients prior to their playing. I work with many players in Vegas and throughout the country. Please private message me or email be directly at: baperras.at.cox.net
Hi Bruce. Here’s a tip for you – if you’re going to scam people online, don’t keep using the same email address.

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Email: baperras.at.cox.net
Phone: 702-555-1212
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Do you miss a loved one who has passed away?
Wouldn't you love to visit with them again just like it was yesterday?
Now you can through the use of regression hypnosis.

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Although I like the fact that all of your Craigslist ads have unusual text all the way at the bottom:

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baperras.at.cox.net
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An unidentified male robbed a convenience store located on Boulder Highway June 4.

Police say the suspect held an employee at gunpoint while stealing an undisclosed amount of money from the cash register.

The suspect is described as a black male, approximately 30 to 40 years old, and stands about 6'2".

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Especially this one:

It often appears as if the hypnotized participant accepts the authority of the hypnotist over his or her own experience. When asked after the conclusion of such a session, some participants claim to be genuinely unable to recall the incident, while others say that they had known the hypnotist was wrong but at the time it had seemed easier just to go along with

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Oops! It looks like you accidentally copied part of your rip-off motive in one of your ads! What a rookie mistake. :laugh:

-Sonny-
 

zengrifter

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baperras said:
I keep posting a link to my website, but it keeps getting deleted.
Because you are new here, but let us proceed like this - discussion thread started - let us talk about hypnosis and its application to advantage play, poker, BJ, etc. Clearly there is a place in the arsenal of some APs for hypnosis and/or NLP.

What school of hypnosis to you practice, Eriksonian?

Tell us how in theory hypnosis and self-hypnosis can be used to improve a professional's game, whether that be golf or backgammon.

BJINFO is a discussion forum, not a classified ads system. zg

Ps - put your link into your signature via 'User CP' top left.
 

baperras

Member
I have been doing hypnosis since 1967. I am self taught. At that time there was very little that was readily available on the subject. I later became certified by the NGH and the Hypnodyne Foundation and am registered with the International Association of Counselors and Therapists. I only did that to have something to hang on my wall. It wasn't something I really needed to do, as there are very few laws from state to state that govern the use of hypnosis. I actually knew more than the people who were certifying me because of my extensive hands on experience over the years. I speak from experience not from things I've read in books as a result of being self taught.

All hypnosis is self hypnosis. The hypnotist is merely the guide, instructor, teacher etc. The client is hypnotizing himseld under my direction. I have worked with athlete's, musicians, pool players, golfers, bowlers, etc over the years. When one plays the game first in your mind while in hypnosis, the chances of improved execution in the physical increase many times over. You used to see Mark Mcgwire standing in the on deck circle with his eyes closed visualizing before he came to bat. Yogi had it right when he said that 90% of the game is mental and the other half is physical.

How do I put my weblink in my signature? Thanks!
 

zengrifter

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baperras said:
All hypnosis is self hypnosis. The hypnotist is merely the guide, instructor, teacher etc. The client is hypnotizing himseld under my direction. I have worked with athlete's, musicians, pool players, golfers, bowlers, etc over the years. When one plays the game first in your mind while in hypnosis, the chances of improved execution in the physical increase many times over. You used to see Mark Mcgwire standing in the on deck circle with his eyes closed visualizing before he came to bat. Yogi had it right when he said that 90% of the game is mental and the other half is physical.
I like the quote in bold. So you would tend not to differentiate much between hypnosis and NLP?

You insert your signature link by first breathing deeply, rhythmically, and then slowly counting backwards from 100....

... and then clicking on "user cp" at the top of the page. zg
 

zengrifter

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baperras said:
They are synonymous with each other.
From a notable NLP practitioner -
The main difference is that Hypnosis uses, almost exclusively, language; to elicit a state where you are very receptive to well phrased suggestions. Trance is a rather formal and prolonged experience

NLP does this as well, but in addition takes advantage of the subjective neurological pathways, and makes behavioral changes by manipulating those pathways. Trance is considered a naturally occurring phenomena and is recognized and taken advantage of when it spontaneously occurrs even if only momentarily.

For me, NLP is hypnosis on steroids, plus more.


Hypnosis is generally "therapy". NLP is not. NLP gives you the tools to run your own brain. NLP gives you choices to feel great. NLP does not let you wallow in the past as we really don't care. We care about now and every moment from now filled with better and happier choices which equal personal freedom in every sense of the word.

NLP was based on what works from the beginning, not creating a model to present to the world to see if it works or not. NLP is based on mathematical formulas and as such is 100% true 100% of the time. NLP is based on advanced language skills to advance and enhance your life, your career, your relationships to just plain old feeling great for no reason at all because that is what you really deserve.

NLP is separated into two parts - skills and applications.

From Pegasus NLP Training -
NLP & Hypnosis


Q. What is the difference between NLP and Hypnosis?

A. There is a difference. NLP is the study of subjective experience - our own experience and that of others. Hypnosis Language Patterns are among the influencing tools which we examine in our NLP Practitioner Training - and we examine this as a part of the whole area of how people can use and respond to language .

When a person is speaking they are influencing their listener both consciously and unconsciously. The unconscious or subliminal influence is the 'hypnosis' part.

For me, there are two critical reasons for this study:

1. We need to become aware of how we are being unconsciously affected by the communication we are exposed to. Without this awareness we are, potentially, at the mercy of both intentional and unintentional hypnotic communication.

2. We need to become aware of how we are continually affecting others - again intentionally or unintentionally - at the unconscious or emotional level. Without this awareness we may un-usefully be influencing them.

What makes the difference between useful and un-useful influence is another question. And the Practitioner tools that are useful here are:

1. Respect for a person's model of the world - following from the NLP principles the map is not the territory and the meaning of your communication is the response you get.

2. The continual refinement of your ability to recognise and respond to subtle indicators of how the other person is responding to you. (Sensory Acuity and Calibration Skills).

3. Use of the Meta Model skills to recognise how the other person's thinking and how their thinking is changing as they communicate with you.

xxx
 

zengrifter

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baperras said:
Well do. Some fine googling skills.
I'm just trying to generate some meaningful dialogue here. Good subject worth discussing...
or were you only interested in posting a classified ad? Try Kijiji.com. zg

Ps - I've met Justin Tranz, Marshall Sylver, and Dr. Naughty through my illusionist buddy Simon W.
And Michelle Green through business. Do you know any of them?
See also - NLP and poker
 
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baperras

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I'm sorry. I've been very busy lately. I met Marshall Sylver once in passing. He has a pretty checked reputation her in Vegas. He was running some sort of "become a millionaire" scheme a few yeras ago. He wanted a $10,000 buy in to be mentored by him with a money back guarantee. Some people thought that they were getting ripped off.
 

zengrifter

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baperras said:
I'm sorry. I've been very busy lately. I met Marshall Sylver once in passing. He has a pretty checked reputation her in Vegas. He was running some sort of "become a millionaire" scheme a few yeras ago. He wanted a $10,000 buy in to be mentored by him with a money back guarantee. Some people thought that they were getting ripped off.
I had sushi with him, we discussed his fraud case. Then I told him that I participated in a stage-hypnotist show in Hong Kong and the performer whispered to me, "Just go along with my commands and we'll have a lot of fun." Sylver said, "I've never heard of such a thing." After dinner my magician friend Simon said, "You called the guy a fraud!" I have confirmed that many or MOST stage hypnotists do that 'whisper' and I can see how it helps with the induction, but Sylver wouldn't cop to it.

An even BIGGER flim-flammer is Justin Tranz, who tried to sell be a can't lose roullette system. My parady of Tranz - "Now you are slowly awakening, returning to full consciousness, when I count to three you will be awake, refreshed, you won't remember a thing... and you will FAIL...1-2-3, awake! *SNAP*

Sylver, I've watched play BJ, he's a major LOSER and has single-handedly disproved my ZGI theory that hypnosis might be used to induce a lucky state for gambling. Also, he needs a new hairpiece. zg
[FONT=verdana,arial]Hypnotist on trial, accused of bilking [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial]customers in self-help program[/FONT]

By J.M. KALIL
[FONT=Verdana, Arial] (Archive copy) (Archive copy)[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial]Marshall Sylver[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial]Hypnotist, self-help guru[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial]The Palms marquee, featuring hypnotist Marshall Sylver, is shown Nov. 29. Sylver is on trial for defrauding investors in a self-help program.[/FONT]

Hypnotist Marshall Sylver's mesmerizing performances got him prime gigs in Strip showrooms, but it's his mastery as an infomercial pitchman that landed him in a criminal court.

Sylver, a self-help guru when he's not entertaining Las Vegas audiences, is accused of bilking customers of tens of thousands of dollars through his Millionaire Mentorship Program. The 10-week course promises for a sign-up fee between $4,500 and $6,000 to teach through one-on-one mentoring the skills it takes to become a millionaire.

Sylver, 41, promised to refund customers' money if the mentoring did not result in them doubling their investment within three months of the initial seminar. Nine witnesses slated to testify at his trial, which began last week, say Sylver actually stole their money by refusing to honor that money-back guarantee.

MORE- http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Dec-08-Mon-2003/news/22704278.html (Archive copy)
 
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