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ricopuno

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Hi,

I read a course offered by gamemasteronline and they suggested that we can memorize indexes that comes %54 of the time and he said that he and his students have tried this and it works I'm currently memorizing the full table index
by Stanford Wong.

My question is:
Should I memorize the full index or I can get away buy just memorizing indexes that are dealt %54 of the time?
 
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mdlbj

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The only index plays you have to memorize are the ones that pertain to the game you are targeting..But I think you should learn how to count first. Are these guys canon fodder or is it just me?

ricopuno said:
Hi,

I read a course offered by gamemasteronline and they suggested that we can memorize indexes that comes %54 of the time and he said that he and his students have tried this and it works I'm currently memorizing the full table index
by Stanford Wong.

My question is:
Should I memorize the full index or I can get away buy just memorizing indexes that are dealt %54 of the time?
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ricopuno

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Thanks for your reply.....

I can count 2 decks for 58 sec. and 1 deck for 22 sec. and still practicing.

The game here in our local casino is 6 decks. What do you mean by Target Game?
 
Sonny

Sonny

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ricopuno said:
Are this enough for me to win in BJ combined with card counting ?
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You can win even if you only know the insurance index. The rest will just help you to win more.

-Sonny-
 
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ricopuno

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I would like to modify Stanford's indices a little bit and I'm searching for a software that can give me the win/rate percentage of individual index.

Are there any software or formulas that I can use in order to figure out the win/rate percentage of each index?

Thanks for helping us all to learn and earn from card counting!!!!!!!
 
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MAZ

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mdlbj said:
Use this..

http://www.blackjackscience.com/Chart_Numbers_Chart.html (Archive copy)
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It figures these numbers come from Semyon's website, he can't even copy a chart accurately. Hey mdlbj, check with your boys over at BJI and tell me if they agree with some of the numbers on this chart. I bet they don't all match with the ones you were supposed to have learned at your seminar. Tsk, Tsk, when will you ever learn. Maybe you need a refresher course.
 
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ricopuno

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I have Stanford's book but he did not discuss how he got his index values.

Does anyone knows a formula we can use to figure out the index values?
 
QFIT

QFIT

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ricopuno said:
I have Stanford's book but he did not discuss how he got his index values.

Does anyone knows a formula we can use to figure out the index values?
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There is no formula that can accurately calculate index numbers.
 
blackjack avenger

blackjack avenger

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Wong Provides and We Thrive

ricopuno said:
I have Stanford's book but he did not discuss how he got his index values.

Does anyone knows a formula we can use to figure out the index values?
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I think Wong in his book does talk about how he produced his indices. Look in the text with the indices at the back of the book.
 
QFIT

QFIT

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blackjack avenger said:
I think Wong in his book does talk about how he produced his indices. Look in the text with the indices at the back of the book.
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He used sampling with replacement. This is more accurate than algebraic estimation but less accurate than targeted simulation.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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MAZ said:
It figures these numbers come from Semyon's website, he can't even copy a chart accurately. Hey mdlbj, check with your boys over at BJI and tell me if they agree with some of the numbers on this chart. I bet they don't all match with the ones you were supposed to have learned at your seminar. Tsk, Tsk, when will you ever learn. Maybe you need a refresher course.
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MAZ, we need the correct #s - I already posted the link elswhere and too them on faith... from an MIT seminar graduate. zg
 
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mdlbj

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MAZ said:
It figures these numbers come from Semyon's website, he can't even copy a chart accurately. Hey mdlbj, check with your boys over at BJI and tell me if they agree with some of the numbers on this chart. I bet they don't all match with the ones you were supposed to have learned at your seminar. Tsk, Tsk, when will you ever learn. Maybe you need a refresher course.
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I would have posted them but it is Copyrighted. You can have the honor of posting them. You attended a seminar, share the love.
 
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cardcounter0

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Sorry, but numbers can not be copyrighted, just the presentation.

If it could I would like to be first in line to copyright 1 + 1 = 2. Seems to me I could collect a lot of royalties with that one.
 
QFIT

QFIT

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cardcounter0 said:
Sorry, but numbers can not be copyrighted, just the presentation.

If it could I would like to be first in line to copyright 1 + 1 = 2. Seems to me I could collect a lot of royalties with that one.
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Not quite correct. Numbers that have been created by a purely algorithmic method cannot be copyrighted. I got permission from each author for the tables in CV.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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mdlbj said:
I would have posted them but it is Copyrighted. You can have the honor of posting them. You attended a seminar, share the love.
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Then just post YOUR corrections to the CE#s link.
(couldn't be more than 1/2dozen negligible changes) zg
 
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