It can't be this easy!

[Kasi]

I just purchased a new Rolex Oyster men's watch on the internet for only $100! It's guaranteed genuine! What a deal!

I guess the related point is that you bought it?

Was that assuming every, or 1 in 50 of these watches would be genuine or 1 in 100million?

What if the watch cost one cent? Does that change your related point, whatever it is, which, btw, is way beyond me.

 

[EasyRhino]

If you're looking to practice on the net, I like the BS strategy train here at bjinfo. and hitorstand.net is good if you want a BS stress test (I freaked out first time I did it).

As for downloadable ones that don't require internet... I dunno, Casino Verite (CVBJ) is popular as a card counting training tool, and may be like hitting a fly with a buick. There's version for $90, $50, and I guess even a "cvbasic" for $10. The main site is at qfit.com

Bear in mind that you'll still need power to run the program, if not internets.

On a broader note, I still don't know exactly what your overall goal is Grace. But I worry it may be a waste of time and/or money.

 

[gracewriter]

Here's just a suggestion for you.

Put him on your ignore list.

It's the best AP play ever - no downside whatsoever - you absolutely, positively, cannot lose

Thanks for the advice, but I haven't been here long enough to decide whether it's worth hanging around long enough to start one up.

I've been on forums and the internet since its inception, and frankly, never found the need to stick around long enough on any of them to put forth the effort or put up with abuse for asking simple honest questions....

...and I don't understand why a forum would condone such behavior from any of its members--at least if they want to continue being a forum that people want to support.

If I have to start ignoring people on my first post because they are, well put lightly and in GP languae, "mean" maybe this isn't the place for someone like me.

Don't get me wrong, I am not so "thin-skinned" that I can't take hostile commments from members who have no sense of decorum, but life is short baby, and I don't have time to deal with hostility even from members who have executive status.

I just don't get why people who are probably nice caring indivifuals in the outside world are such assholes in the cyber world.

 

[sagefr0g]

....., and I don't have time to deal with hostility even from members who have executive status.
.......

executive status on this forum is relatively meaningless. it just means you've made some number of posts that's all. it has nothing to do with authority.

 

[Kasi]

...and I don't understand why a forum would condone such behavior from any of its members--at least if they want to continue being a forum that people want to support.

No big deal - I agree with everything you say. Not my forum. Not my call.

Hope you decide to stick around and drop in from time to time.

 

[EasyRhino]

The threshold for executive status is like 12 posts. They aren't measured for content either, or I never would have qualified.

I just don't get why people who are probably nice caring indivifuals in the outside world are such assholes in the cyber world.

And, deeper inside, there might be an inner asshole. That's the great thing about the Internet.

 

[bj bob]

The threshold for executive status is like 12 posts. They aren't measured for content either, or I never would have qualified.

Bite your tongue, Easy! You're the Tolstoy of this Forum.

 

[InPlay]

Hello Leo. Have a nice day.

 

[gracewriter]

Hello Leo. Have a nice day.

Thanks to everyone who gave me some good honest advice. I really don't know what my goal is at the moment. I only just learned about online BJ. I never would have considered anything like it until my roomate mentioned her co-worker plays poker on line and makes cash.

I'll check out the sites. Thanks a million!

 

[hawkeye]

I can't count the number of people that I've talked to that "know someone" who plays online and makes tons of money. My father-in-law once told me an employee of his makes $10k a month doing it, but somehow the employee still keeps his $10/hour job?

Don't believe anyone who claims to make a bunch of money gambling online. There is no more reason to believe that than to believe someone who claims to make a bunch of money gambling in casinos.

 

[Kasi]

I can't count the number of people that I've talked to that "know someone" who plays online and makes tons of money...
Don't believe anyone who claims to make a bunch of money gambling online. There is no more reason to believe that than to believe someone who claims to make a bunch of money gambling in casinos.

Skepticism is good.

"Trust no one" as Mulder would say.

Count me in that group for sure.

But, an open mind is good too lol.

With the right bonus, gambling online is, well, was anyway, enormously profitable, like you say, almost beyond belief. With the right game, so is card-counting in casinos. Just much much less so.

Since you are using the present tense, I have no idea how online is today.
I thought our Neo-nazi, right-wing, fascist gov't made playing a $1 hand of BJ on the internet illegal years ago. It seems players still do play which is great. I don't know how they do it. I just got too skeptical on the ability to fund and the ability of the casino, the ones that continued to allow US citizens to play, to pay me after I won. The ones I most liked to play at anyway refused to let me play any more anyway. The others seemed to want pre-paid phone cards to fund an account lol. Or a MO to send to Venezuela who would send it to Costa Rico and they would send me back a check if I won the banks couldn't cash.

What'd the Dept of Justice do - freeze like $42MM at Neteller, ostensibly a Canadian based company I think. Is that the one they arrested the owner while on a stopover on US soil? Maybe not. Can't remember. Now it's Bodog, I gather. Another $28MM frozen? At some point the money goes thru a bank with US ties and agrees to no longer accept the money from an e-wallet. I guess that's how they do it.

If I was single, I would have moved to England or Canada the day it happened.

So, if Gracewriter is a US citizen, I'd forget about online for those reasons.

I digress. And :cry: for the good ole days

 

[Kasi]

I must be pretty smart I found you out and was trying to save you money by telling you online BJ is wasting your money.

Is this the same guy who said "Are all online bj rigged ? I don't have the slighest clue"?

Is there a snowball's chance in he*l, you ever actually played at least 1 hd of BJ on the internet ever?

 

[gracewriter]

I can't count the number of people that I've talked to that "know someone" who plays online and makes tons of money. My father-in-law once told me an employee of his makes $10k a month doing it, but somehow the employee still keeps his $10/hour job?

Don't believe anyone who claims to make a bunch of money gambling online. There is no more reason to believe that than to believe someone who claims to make a bunch of money gambling in casinos.

She's not claiming to win a bunch of money. I don't know where you got the idea that she's making a ton of cash. I said, she makes cash playing poker online. Sometimes she wins sometimes she doesn't.

 

[InPlay]

Is this the same guy who said "Are all online bj rigged ? I don't have the slighest clue"?

Is there a snowball's chance in he*l, you ever actually played at least 1 hd of BJ on the internet ever?

You are right I have never played I hand on line for money. I like to touch and see real cards in front of me. You are just looking to part with your money playing on line. From your previous posts and views I see you share the same view.

 

[gracewriter]

You are right I have never played I hand on line for money. I like to touch and see real cards in front of me. You are just looking to part with your money playing on line. From your previous posts and views I see you share the same view.

Then why would you come on a public forum and advise ANYONE on something you have NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE?

Advise a HIGH DEGREE OF CAUTION, but don't mislead people into thinking you are an expert in an area you have zero experience.

 

[InPlay]

Then why would you come on a public forum and advise ANYONE on something you have NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE?

Advise a HIGH DEGREE OF CAUTION, but don't mislead people into thinking you are an expert in an area you have zero experience.

You are a prime canadite for some swampland. Still wet behind the ears. No experience in life or streetwise as I can see. You will learn a good lesson after you lose your cash and only then will you have your first lesson in life. Like they say "Their is a sucker born every minute." They are waitng for you or should I say your cash. Why don't you sisn up and start playing and come back and tell us how much you won. It won't take long to lose that $250.00.

 

[Kasi]

You are right I have never played I hand on line for money.

Not surprised lol but appreciate your candor.

You are just looking to part with your money playing on line. From your previous posts and views I see you share the same view.

I tried to say, sorry I wasn't more clear, that I don't know much about the current environment for US players. Winning would be the easy part. Funding and getting paid might be the hard part but I don't know since I don't play online anymore after the b*stards attached it to the Safe Port Security Act and thus got it passed unseen and unread.

But, if the same casinos and same deals are out there now as when I quit, it's extremely profitable with risk so low I don't even think The Wise One would call it gambling. I know I didn't.

There were games out there with rules so good and HA so low with $1 mins I'd play today even without bonuses. If I was allowed to fund the account and allowed to be paid by them.

Long way of saying, I don't think we share the same view about online playing.

If you were at least 21 in 1999, even if by 2004 would have given you a couple good years, I forget if you are young or old lol, but, if you were, well, it's just a darn shame that you are as smart as you are and reached that conclusion about online play. Why do you have that opinion about online play anyway? You wouldn't even believe me what it cost you lol.

Of course if you're only 23 or 24 now, I guess there's nothing you could do about it. Although I think a bunch may have accepted 18 as OK to play.

None of this applies to poker - like you, never played 1 hand of that on the internet lol.

 

[InPlay]

Not surprised lol but appreciate your candor.



I tried to say, sorry I wasn't more clear, that I don't know much about the current environment for US players. Winning would be the easy part. Funding and getting paid might be the hard part but I don't know since I don't play online anymore after the b*stards attached it to the Safe Port Security Act and thus got it passed unseen and unread.

But, if the same casinos and same deals are out there now as when I quit, it's extremely profitable with risk so low I don't even think The Wise One would call it gambling. I know I didn't.

There were games out there with rules so good and HA so low with $1 mins I'd play today even without bonuses. If I was allowed to fund the account and allowed to be paid by them.

Long way of saying, I don't think we share the same view about online playing.

If you were at least 21 in 1999, even if by 2004 would have given you a couple good years, I forget if you are young or old lol, but, if you were, well, it's just a darn shame that you are as smart as you are and reached that conclusion about online play. Why do you have that opinion about online play anyway? You wouldn't even believe me what it cost you lol.

Of course if you're only 23 or 24 now, I guess there's nothing you could do about it. Although I think a bunch may have accepted 18 as OK to play.

None of this applies to poker - like you, never played 1 hand of that on the internet lol.

Funding is not the hard part winning is. If you want to play you can fund by Western Union, or Fed Ex. So fire away and tell me how much you win. I have no problem what so ever funding or getting paid on sports betting. Checks come by Fed Ex. drawn on a Canadian Bank. No problem as of 1 month ago.