jack-the-ghost-rider vs sage-the-posionous frog p2

zengrifter

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aslan said:
I have a strong dislike for snakes.
There are beautiful in so many ways - they live in such diverse environs , from water and oceans to mountains and trees - they have a vast variety of sizes from the smallest animals to some of the biggest on the planet - and they get around better with no appendeges than most animals with legs. Not to mention the physical beauty and grace they exude. And they make great pets because the can be friendlier than many most pet reptiles, they eat infrequently and they are fun to hold and typically adust well to being held.

My neighbors have a huge albino Boa and it goes swimming in the pool with them. There was guy last year who had raised a very large snake from a small hatchling to near record size - a Boa or Anaconda - for 5-6 years - and then it strangled him to death. zg

 

zengrifter

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jack said:
Its almost as if were the ancient ones, not the dinosaurs.:eek:
Among those extensively involved with past life regression, they go back millions of years
and often find themselves in highly advanced civilizations far beyond where 21st century earth is. zg
 

aslan

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zengrifter said:
Among those extensively involved with past life regression, they go back millions of years
and often find themselves in highly advanced civilizations far beyond where 21st century earth is. zg
When I was in Florida in 1963 a little girl picked up a coral snake on the way to school. It was so pretty. The little snake nestled in her warm hand. On the way to school she dropped it, so she reached down and picked it up again. It chewed into her nervous system irreversibly paralyzing her within minutes. I can't remember whether she died.

My neighbor, Alan, whom we called , Nature Boy, had pet snakes and an alligator. He would chase his black racer across the yard, then suddenly the snake would stop, turn, and chase him. It was a blast to watch them chasing each other around his yard. When he grew up he became a Karate instructor for the U.S. Secret Service. Go figure.

Last year, I was raking leaves in my backyard. I uncovered a little nest of copperheads. At first I though they were garden snakes, until one of them coiled up, reared back and prepared to strike. Turned out my yard was infested with the little critters. A friend gave me some snake away, which I spread liberally wherever I thought they may be hiding. I haven't seen a single snake since then. They don't like the smell of the stuff.

When I move to Nevada, I'm thinking of putting a wall around my home to keep the crawly little creatures (rattlesnakes) out--plus I like privacy. Who said, "Fences make good neighbors?" Robert Frost, I think.
 

jack.jackson

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zengrifter said:
Among those extensively involved with past life regression, they go back millions of years
and often find themselves in highly advanced civilizations far beyond where 21st century earth is. zg
Its funny how the human mind has a natural tendency NOT, to percieve things in this way. The earth is relatively young opposed to the Universe. Its hard to imagine their was nothing more going on before humans came along. What!! 45,000 years at the most? Is again, what % of 6 Billion years?
 

aslan

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jack said:
Its funny how the human mind has a natural tendency NOT, to percieve things in this way. The earth is relatively young opposed to the Universe. Its hard to imagine their was nothing more going on before humans came along.
How old is the universe? Are they just guessing? Is the big bang a reality or just an educated stab in the dark? Could the universe have been created overnight? If it took millions, even billions or trillions, of years, is it possible that it took that many years to evolve a human or human-like being? Something was going on, but it is possible that it was non-human activity and nothing more. Why is it that people who do regressions always seem to come out some notable figure in history? I mean, out of all the people a person could have been in real life (if the theory were true) how come they always seem to have been Napoleon, Julius Caesar, or some Biblical figure? And the women were invariably Cleopatra? Why is it that people who do regression were never some Joe Schmo who maybe was one of millions who helped drag rocks to build the pyramids or some naked, indigent farmer's son in Africa, who contracted malaria at the age of thirteen, and died? The only thing that really seems to set us apart is this thing called self-consciousness in the epistemological sense, and zg has gone made that an entire religion. LOL Personally, I am comfortable with the miracle of man, and trusting in the beneficent Providence that put me here, and His unerring design for my life. To think Him a mad man, which is tantamount to thinking myself Him, is totally illogical and avails nothing. If He is a mad man, then nothing makes sense and we can leave the discussion right here, since it is not even worth pursuing in that it means He created a being with higher aspirations than Himself. Who is like God, yet alone greater? Even Lucifer, the most brilliant of all creatures ever, only prided himself to be 'like God," not greater.


What is greater than God,
More evil than the devil?
The poor have it,
The rich need it,
And if you eat it, you die?


Answer: Nothing!
 

jack.jackson

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aslan said:
How old is the universe? Are they just guessing? Is the big bang a reality or just an educated stab in the dark? Could the universe have been created overnight? If it took millions, even billions or trillions, of years, is it possible that it took that many years to evolve a human or human-like being? Something was going on, but it is possible that it was non-human activity and nothing more. Why is it that people who do regressions always seem to come out some notable figure in history? I mean, out of all the people a person could have been in real life (if the theory were true) how come they always seem to have been Napoleon, Julius Caesar, or some Biblical figure? And the women were invariably Cleopatra? Why is it that people who do regression were never some Joe Schmo who maybe was one of millions who helped drag rocks to build the pyramids or some naked, indigent farmer's son in Africa, who contracted malaria at the age of thirteen, and died? The only thing that really seems to set us apart is this thing called self-consciousness in the epistemological sense, and zg has gone made that an entire religion. LOL Personally, I am comfortable with the miracle of man, and trusting in the beneficent Providence that put me here, and His unerring design for my life. To think Him a mad man, which is tantamount to thinking myself Him, is totally illogical and avails nothing. If He is a mad man, then nothing makes sense and we can leave the discussion right here, since it is not even worth pursuing in that it means He created a being with higher aspirations than Himself. Who is like God, yet alone greater? Even Lucifer, the most brilliant of all creatures ever, only prided himself to be 'like God," not greater.


What is greater than God,
More evil than the devil?
The poor have it,
The rich need it,
And if you eat it, you die?


Answer: Nothing!
Very nice! Seriously. Almost Identical to how I feel and think. Let me ponder this for awhile. Will get back to you.
 

sagefr0g

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put this in your pipe & smoke it

(Dead link: http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid203719194/bclid86272812/bctid1546256513)
 

aslan

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sagefr0g said:
(Dead link: http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid203719194/bclid86272812/bctid1546256513)

I guess they didn't realize that the World Federated Frog Festival, a convention commemorating frog freedom and attended by millions of frolicking, fun-loving frogs, was being held in Southwestern China this year. Nearly 2,000 of the 3,900 species were there. Last year's convention held in Louisiana Bayou country attracted far less attention. A gala event, most were stylishly dressed, wearing the latest in jumpsuits. Frogs are very happy creatures; experts say you would be, too, if you could eat what bugs you. This is a very special year for frogs, being it is a leap year.
View attachment 327Mr Frog jumped out of the pond one day
And found himself in the rain
Said he, "I'll get wet and I might catch a cold."
So he jumped in the pond again.http://allaboutfrogs.org/files/sounds/bell.aiff

What a wonderful bird the frog are--
When he sit, he stand almost.
When he hop, he fly almost.
He ain't got no sense hardly.
He ain't got no tail hardly either.
When he sit, he sit on what he ain't got--almost. Anonymous
 

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jack.jackson

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aslan said:
How old is the universe? Are they just guessing? Is the big bang a reality or just an educated stab in the dark? Could the universe have been created overnight? If it took millions, even billions or trillions, of years, is it possible that it took that many years to evolve a human or human-like being? Something was going on, but it is possible that it was non-human activity and nothing more. Why is it that people who do regressions always seem to come out some notable figure in history? I mean, out of all the people a person could have been in real life (if the theory were true) how come they always seem to have been Napoleon, Julius Caesar, or some Biblical figure? And the women were invariably Cleopatra? Why is it that people who do regression were never some Joe Schmo who maybe was one of millions who helped drag rocks to build the pyramids or some naked, indigent farmer's son in Africa, who contracted malaria at the age of thirteen, and died? The only thing that really seems to set us apart is this thing called self-consciousness in the epistemological sense, and zg has gone made that an entire religion. LOL Personally, I am comfortable with the miracle of man, and trusting in the beneficent Providence that put me here, and His unerring design for my life. To think Him a mad man, which is tantamount to thinking myself Him, is totally illogical and avails nothing. If He is a mad man, then nothing makes sense and we can leave the discussion right here, since it is not even worth pursuing in that it means He created a being with higher aspirations than Himself. Who is like God, yet alone greater? Even Lucifer, the most brilliant of all creatures ever, only prided himself to be 'like God," not greater.


What is greater than God,
More evil than the devil?
The poor have it,
The rich need it,
And if you eat it, you die?


Answer: Nothing!
First, I would like to ask you a question. Theirs two types of people in this world.

Those who believe we have walked on the moon and those who dont.

Which type are you??

I bet ZG, doesnt believe we have. IM curious?
 

aslan

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jack said:
First, I would like to ask you a question. Theirs two types of people in this world.

Those who believe we have walked on the moon and those who dont.

Which type are you??

I bet ZG, doesnt believe we have. IM curious?
Yes, I believe we walked on the moon. I just take the astronaut's, NASA's, and the U.S. Government's word for it. Also, our enemies at the time, notably, the USSR, didn't dispute the fact.

Zg will say the Russians were in on the deception, which all took place in a media room set up by the Illuminati. He might even say that he himself was on the moon by astral projection, and that he didn't see the astronauts there. Now who're you going to believe?

Zg puts the fun back into living. Everything is a James Bond thriller, a plot to take over the world! LOL

This message was not approved by BLUR, the disinformation arm of the Illuminati. :grin:

BLUR: Barefaced Lies and Uninformed Reporting
 

QFIT

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jack said:
First, I would like to ask you a question. Theirs two types of people in this world.

Those who believe we have walked on the moon and those who dont.
You believe in the moon?
 

aslan

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sagefr0g said:
believe in the believer
https://www.scribd.com/doc/208321/Does-the-Universe-Exist-if-We-re-Not-Looking-Discover-Mag
and aslan if you read all this or what ever still let's go back a post and i'm curious like ZenGrifter sort of what your response might be to this post?
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=80281&postcount=148
Yes, I understand the quantum physics discovery of observation influencing reality, but we're talking about the sub-molecular level where light is broken into its most elemental parts and the eye of course must process that light to see the result of our experiment. Is light particles or waves? Seems to depend on whether we're looking or not. But I don't carry this notion of reality into everyday life situations. In general, whether I look or not, I find things are just the same. Lol

But the idea of the Divine somehow intermingled with our every thought and choice, now that has possibilities. Of course, all things present and future already being known to He Who exists outside of time, it is maybe less of an instant sleight-of-hand kind of trick as it is that all things are set in advance for the best way to deal with each of us humans (and frog-like creatures) at the very level that we need it. In other words, it may be that the deck is stacked! Knowing the future, He could set it up so, when we make the free choice that He knew we would, He has it set that we get the exact result that is best for our advancement in all ways beneficial to our maturation (spiritual development). In other words, we are in a prison of sorts, no big surprise, and every detail of our existence has been worked out to the nth degree so that no matter what we choose to do the result has already been anticipated and molded to our precise need at the moment. It is the only thing that can explain why things always seem to happen the way they do. But it is wholly consistent with an infinite, loving and all powerful God, that He arranges everything, even the minutest details for the best outcome in terms of our advancement. Of course, this may be frustrating to us if our goal happens to be, say, to win a million dollars, whereas the Creator's agenda is perhaps to teach us the value of poverty and humility. Eventually, if we're not too awfully stubborn in our self-appointed pursuits, we may actually let God be God in our lives and lead us, no longer kicking and screaming, toward our eternal reward. Yes, I do not believe there is such a thing as a coincidence. If in fact nothing is by chance, then all these schemes to harness outcome through probability theory are a bit laughable. But no matter how hard we try to prove the idea that the deck is truly stacked, all the more certain am I that we will find that everything is seemingly random. Everything is perfectly planned, and there is no flaw in the program as with the Matrix. We are all Neo, and we are all built for the greatest heroics, although not all will necessarily realize their born-for destiny, and that is the real tragedy of life. It's all right there for the taking, but we can't see the forest for the trees. What did the scriptures say? The kingdom is at hand! (Not somewhere in the future, not in the next room, but now, here, at hand.) Makes quantum physics seem kind of elementary. Lol
 

sagefr0g

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aslan said:
Yes, I understand the quantum physics discovery of observation influencing reality, but we're talking about the sub-molecular level where light is broken into its most elemental parts and the eye of course must process that light to see the result of our experiment. Is light particles or waves? Seems to depend on whether we're looking or not. But I don't carry this notion of reality into everyday life situations. In general, whether I look or not, I find things are just the same. Lol

But the idea of the Divine somehow intermingled with our every thought and choice, now that has possibilities. Of course, all things present and future already being known to He Who exists outside of time, it is maybe less of an instant sleight-of-hand kind of trick as it is that all things are set in advance for the best way to deal with each of us humans (and frog-like creatures) at the very level that we need it. In other words, it may be that the deck is stacked! Knowing the future, He could set it up so, when we make the free choice that He knew we would, He has it set that we get the exact result that is best for our advancement in all ways beneficial to our maturation (spiritual development). In other words, we are in a prison of sorts, no big surprise, and every detail of our existence has been worked out to the nth degree so that no matter what we choose to do the result has already been anticipated and molded to our precise need at the moment. It is the only thing that can explain why things always seem to happen the way they do. But it is wholly consistent with an infinite, loving and all powerful God, that He arranges everything, even the minutest details for the best outcome in terms of our advancement. Of course, this may be frustrating to us if our goal happens to be, say, to win a million dollars, whereas the Creator's agenda is perhaps to teach us the value of poverty and humility. Eventually, if we're not too awfully stubborn in our self-appointed pursuits, we may actually let God be God in our lives and lead us, no longer kicking and screaming, toward our eternal reward. Yes, I do not believe there is such a thing as a coincidence. If in fact nothing is by chance, then all these schemes to harness outcome through probability theory are a bit laughable. But no matter how hard we try to prove the idea that the deck is truly stacked, all the more certain am I that we will find that everything is seemingly random. Everything is perfectly planned, and there is no flaw in the program as with the Matrix. We are all Neo, and we are all built for the greatest heroics, although not all will necessarily realize their born-for destiny, and that is the real tragedy of life. It's all right there for the taking, but we can't see the forest for the trees. What did the scriptures say? The kingdom is at hand! (Not somewhere in the future, not in the next room, but now, here, at hand.) Makes quantum physics seem kind of elementary. Lol
preciate much your reply. think i might see it a bit differantly with respect to micro-states and macro-states. thing is i think the physics of the micro-state operates in the macro-state as well perhaps not mechanistic physics of the macro-state always extending to the micro-state. i dunno lol. to where Jesus walks on water and breaks no physical law, the red sea rise up and breaks no physical law. stuff like that. it's sort of analagous to quantum mechanical tunneling you know where a lesser energy can overcome a greater one sort of thing.
but i was also interested in your opinion about one's mental/emotional state (especially a sense of pride) when playing cards (blackjack for example lol) and certain moral principles God might hold with respect to ones demeanor.
pretty far out i know. but this is the voodoo forum. i mean you answered the question in a general way. it's really none of my business asking but i'm curious to wonder what you think (especially you of all posters on this forum). to where you anwered in general but my sense of what you wrote is i think leaving me lost in a forest of words to where i can't see the forest for the words. long way of asking do you think our luck at cards is affected by our demeanor? i know the cards don't care much but i wonder about God.
my opinion is there is some affect there. not necessarily predictable or something one could use or control. so maybe what your saying is yes and it's going to be in some way shrouded in mystery but in a way that can enrich our spirit not necessarily our pockets. the pocket parts the one i'm really most curious about. you ever get that sense that maybe there is some such untenable affect?
also about what you wrote i would wonder if God might want to shroud some knowledge about things from Himself or even purposely set things about so even He might not know the outcome until it happened.
 

sagefr0g

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zengrifter said:
"In order to know they head one must investigate thoroughly thy tail!"
--The Yellow Emperor 700BC​
yep, just wanna be sure and separate the wheat from the chafe.
bet ya knew that was comming didn't ya Zen :p
 

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aslan

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sagefr0g said:
preciate much your reply. think i might see it a bit differantly with respect to micro-states and macro-states. thing is i think the physics of the micro-state operates in the macro-state as well perhaps not mechanistic physics of the macro-state always extending to the micro-state. i dunno lol. to where Jesus walks on water and breaks no physical law, the red sea rise up and breaks no physical law. stuff like that. it's sort of analagous to quantum mechanical tunneling you know where a lesser energy can overcome a greater one sort of thing.
but i was also interested in your opinion about one's mental/emotional state (especially a sense of pride) when playing cards (blackjack for example lol) and certain moral principles God might hold with respect to ones demeanor.
pretty far out i know. but this is the voodoo forum. i mean you answered the question in a general way. it's really none of my business asking but i'm curious to wonder what you think (especially you of all posters on this forum). to where you anwered in general but my sense of what you wrote is i think leaving me lost in a forest of words to where i can't see the forest for the words. long way of asking do you think our luck at cards is affected by our demeanor? i know the cards don't care much but i wonder about God.
my opinion is there is some affect there. not necessarily predictable or something one could use or control. so maybe what your saying is yes and it's going to be in some way shrouded in mystery but in a way that can enrich our spirit not necessarily our pockets. the pocket parts the one i'm really most curious about. you ever get that sense that maybe there is some such untenable affect?
also about what you wrote i would wonder if God might want to shroud some knowledge about things from Himself or even purposely set things about so even He might not know the outcome until it happened.
Here are my best guesses.

Last first--I don't believe God shrouds any knowledge from Himself. To what end? Being all-knowing, it would be a contradiction anyway. Remember, He lives outside of time; to Him there is no future, so what's there to hide.

I believe your attitudes/thoughts affect not only your luck, but all the things that touch upon your life. However, it is next to impossible to say what causes what. In general, I believe that good things happen to good people/countries. But there is this mystery surrounding suffering. Jesus was a good person, yet he suffered excruciating pain leading up to an unjust death at the hands of his enemies. Believers know the reason for this in His particular case, but when it comes to our own lives, it is often a complete mystery. Countries of poor and marginalized people are hit by earthquakes, tornadoes, famine, disease, and floods. It is hard to believe these people deserved such terrible suffering. Likewise, sometimes selfish, conniving human beings seem blessed with the best of luck. Therefore, I submit that you cannot know the effect of your thoughts, attitudes, demeanor on the things around you, because you cannot know how the mind of God works. I think a person's best bet is to live a good life, and expect good things to follow, even though at times bad things will come and their reason will often be unfathomable.

If you're looking for some scientific rule or law that can be applied by those who know them to walk on water, multiply loaves, heal people, or win at Blackjack, I don't believe there is any. I don't subscribe to a natural explanation for every miracle of Jesus. I believe these were supernatural events.

My mental approach to Blackjack is to use my mind to the best of my ability to win, and that means to employ BS and card counting. I am more and more reconciled to playing because I love the game, than for any hopes of getting rich. If that comes, fine. Likewise, I am risk adverse, and believe that those who take big risks in hopes of making a big killing, for example by playing with an inadequate bankroll, are begging for a comeuppance. Likewise, anyone playing games where the house has a decided edge, are asking for trouble. Chalk it up to entertainment expense of you do play these games, because I doubt you will overcome the odds and win lots of money, because I doubt that the Almighty rewards stupidity.
 
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