Long playing sessions

rrwoods

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aslan said:
On my long stays I generally know all about at least one dealer and one pit person, where they're from, where they went to school, what occupations they've had, what bad fortune they've had, all kinds of stories about their private lives, what they plan to do in retirement. I also like the $100 food comp at one of their restaurants. Hey, for me it's beneficial to be friendly with the staff. To each his own.

If losing, I have had pit people, especially women, give me looks that say, "I hope you know what you're doing. I sure hate to see such a nice person lose more than he can afford." I know they don't know how many green and black chips I have stuffed in my pockets, or if I am really behind, they are always so happy to see me reverse my fortunes. What the heck is wrong with that? There's nothing like having the pit crew pulling for you to win! (Now I feel so dirty. :sad: Am I really the two-faced cad I just described? Woe is me!:cry:) :laugh:

PS--Actually, I genuinely like the dealers and pit crews I meet at the tables. It's not their money!
This. A thousand times.

Not only does it help your longevity to have a rapport with the crew, it also boosts that Gather Information score a good 5 or 10 ranks ;-)
 

EmeraldCityBJ

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I probably play an 8+ hour session 5-8 times a year, and it's almost always some sort of promo game where I decide that I'm going to play until they kill the promo or until a backoff.

I think my longest session was around 16 hours of play (probably more like 18 hours of total time if you add in breaks, etc.) To make matters worse, travel delays were such that I only got 3-4 hours of sleep prior to the session. I was pretty drained after that one, but the time length was only part of it. When playing a game where you're placing something close to your usual max bet every single hand, you'll experience swings in an hour or two which would normally take months to observe. These short term wild swings can be quite exhausting - especially if you're on the wrong end of the variance curve.
 

tensplitter

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Why would you bet the max every hand? Even if there's a player edge off the top, counting will only magnify that player edge. Or just wong out when your advantage is less than 0 and max bet at any player advantage.
 

aslan

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tensplitter said:
Why would you bet the max every hand? Even if there's a player edge off the top, counting will only magnify that player edge. Or just wong out when your advantage is less than 0 and max bet at any player advantage.
I don't know why he would bet max bet every hand in a long session, but I am all ears to find out why. I was guessing he had some kind of monumental advantage, like hole carding every single deal. :confused:
 

Brock Windsor

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tensplitter said:
Why would you bet the max every hand? Even if there's a player edge off the top, counting will only magnify that player edge. Or just wong out when your advantage is less than 0 and max bet at any player advantage.
My guess would be a low table max and having an advantage on every hand you play.
-BW
 

johndoe

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tensplitter said:
Why would you bet the max every hand? Even if there's a player edge off the top, counting will only magnify that player edge. Or just wong out when your advantage is less than 0 and max bet at any player advantage.
Most promos have conservative limits, so max bet isn't gigantic.

While you can probably get away with wonging a bit if things go really south, it's pretty foolish to get tossed for counting when you have a juicy situation. Plus, counting usually adds only a marginal extra advantage that isn't worth the risk.
 

aslan

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johndoe said:
Most promos have conservative limits, so max bet isn't gigantic.

While you can probably get away with wonging a bit if things go really south, it's pretty foolish to get tossed for counting when you have a juicy situation. Plus, counting usually adds only a marginal extra advantage that isn't worth the risk.
Everyone is assuming a promo. I must have missed that.:confused:
 

dacium

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I remember pulling alot of 12 hour sessions when QQ pair side bet promo was doing the rounds.

These days the promos tend to be more about comps and free drinks etc.
 

itrack

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Sometimes the edge you have on a promo is so high that even in a -30 count you still have a very high advantage. There was a promo recently that even if there was only 1 ace left in the deck, you still would (usually) have a big enough advantage to max bet. In this case it isn't even worth counting because it might cause you to get tired faster than if you just played BS(even though I have counted sometimes just to stay awake :laugh:).Also as other have said, not all of these games have huge limits.
 

1357111317

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itrack said:
Sometimes the edge you have on a promo is so high that even in a -30 count you still have a very high advantage. There was a promo recently that even if there was only 1 ace left in the deck, you still would (usually) have a big enough advantage to max bet. In this case it isn't even worth counting because it might cause you to get tired faster than if you just played BS(even though I have counted sometimes just to stay awake :laugh:).Also as other have said, not all of these games have huge limits.
Playing open to close at these casinso for 4 straight days tend to be standard when it comes to these promos. Also not taking food breaks can happen since missing 10 hands is going to cost you 50 bucks in EV.

Coffee is good for these promos too since it tends to be a bit repetitive and it can be easy to fall asleep. I may or may not have fallen asleep at the table during one of these games due to fatigue. Then while waking up I managed to hit a 14 v a 6. The good thing was I probably made back the lost EV of that play the very next hand.
 
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Nynefingers

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1357111317 said:
Playing open to close at these casinso for 4 straight days tend to be standard when it comes to these promos. Also not taking food breaks can happen since missing 10 hands is going to cost you 50 bucks in EV.

Coffee is good for these promos too since it tends to be a bit repetitive and it can be easy to fall asleep. I may or may not have fallen asleep at the table during one of these games due to fatigue. Then while waking up I managed to hit a 14 v a 6. The good thing was I probably made back the lost EV of that play the very next hand.
I think I need to take a nice little road trip.....
 
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