Longest streak, afraid it will end...

ZeeBabar

Banned
I am currently going through my longest streak of winning sessions and as I approached a casino this morning, I was expecting it would end (it did not!). I have not lost a session this month. Its never happened in 3+ years where I had a month of no losing. Makes me want to quit for the month and set my personal record. My streak is as follows:

December 2-4th Plus $1400 10 hours
December 5th Plus $1450. 100 minutes
December 7th Plus $565 60 minutes
December 8th Plus $1400 60 Minutes
Plus $785 20 minutes
December 12th Plus $240 60 minutes
December 13th Plus $200 30 minutes
December 14th Plus $215 100 Minuts
December 18th Plus $545 90 minutes
December 20th Plus $775 45 minutes
 

KewlJ

Well-Known Member
ZeeBabar said:
I am currently going through my longest streak of winning sessions and as I approached a casino this morning, I was expecting it would end (it did not!). I have not lost a session this month. Its never happened in 3+ years where I had a month of no losing. Makes me want to quit for the month and set my personal record.
There is some voodoo thinking that has crept both into your post and your mind. I have highlighted them for ya. o_O

But I can't say I haven't had those kind of thoughts myself at various times. ;) So, I am just going to offer my congrats and hopes that it continues.
 

KewlJ

Well-Known Member
21forme said:
KJ, just think how much more he would have won using a L2 count ;)
21forme, I was just about to edit my post to say something about that. ;) Instead I'll do it here.

In answer to Zee's second voodoo-ish statement, I vote Zee keeps playing. If I recall correctly he was at 30k for the year going into the day, so why not push on ahead to the same numbers as the guy....the 25 year fulltime player....who makes 32-38k a year (his numbers) playing a level 2 WITH ASC. You know the guy that states NO ONE can make any money playing hi-lo or a similar level 1 count and insists everyone should play a level 2 count. :D

Yes, I am aware we don't have numbers of hours or rounds played for either player...but still a damn fun comparison. ;)

As for those quotes that NO One can make any money playing a level 1 count, if Zee can do it..... :rolleyes:.

Go get 'em Zee!
 

LC Larry

Well-Known Member
KewlJ said:
You know the guy that states NO ONE can make any money playing hi-lo or a similar level 1 count and insists everyone should play a level 2 count. :D
They're not making any money posting on the internet 24/7.

Top pros are out playing, not sitting on their computers.
 

Gosha

Member
Congrats on the nice streak. Did you split those 4's!?

Currently having my longest losing slump, oh well.
 

KewlJ

Well-Known Member
LC Larry said:
They're not making any money posting on the internet 24/7.

Top pros are out playing, not sitting on their computers.
Professional players aren't out playing blackjack 24/7. Most of us put in far less than the traditional 40 hours a week, although it is broken up in bits and pieces far different than the traditional work week. So there is plenty of time for posting online for those of us that enjoy doing so.

Now if you want to ask what exactly is wrong with us that we enjoy posting on line....well that's another question. :rolleyes: One I don't have a good answer to. o_O
 

LC Larry

Well-Known Member
You answered my post with your second paragraph. ;)

Nothing wrong with "chatting" with fellow players, but some of them just never shut up!
 

Midwest Player

Well-Known Member
KJ, Flash called you notorious......lol. Does this count as using one's name in vain?

You mentioned the notorious (barred) KJ.
I am not about to digress, but I will only
state as follows: KJ has proven hundreds
of times that he cares not for responsible
posting of (inconveniently) accurate information
.
 

Midwest Player

Well-Known Member
Zee, the loss will come. It always does. Just be careful you don't go hog wild and start steaming just to try to rack up another win. It seems for me my biggest loss always comes after a long winning streak.

By the way, my longest winning streak was 17 times in a row. I had a few more over the years where I went 12 or 13 times in a row. My longest winning streak this year was 7 times in a row.
 

KewlJ

Well-Known Member
Midwest Player said:
KJ, Flash called you notorious......lol. Does this count as using one's name in vain?
I don't dislike (double negative for Don) Flash, or Norm or the T3 person for that matter and I am not at war with anyone. I am trying to adopt more of a 'live and let live' attitude because life is just too short. :) BUT, I strongly object to people/players that make these misleading and factually wrong statement and worse yet, double down when they are corrected and proven to be wrong. That is just unfair to newer players who are being misled.

Flash's insistence that players MUST play a level two count (with side counts) or some other advanced count is just factually wrong. He personally knows and has played with players that play a level one count and are top players that make a comfortable living (some that have posted in this thread). And other top players, like LVBear, sometimes Norm, and others, occasionally weigh in and correct him, but he just doubles down....insistently, arrogantly. :confused:

The owner of that other site, will defend this as "opinion" and says everyone is entitled to their own. Well if someone posts that the earth is flat, that is NOT an opinion....that is factually wrong and should be rebuked. On a blackjack or AP site, if someone posts that the way to riches is the martingale system, that is NOT an opinion. That is factually wrong and should be rebuked. If Michael Morgenstern posts...well anything...that is wrong and should be rebuked. :)

To continue to state this factually wrong statement, should not be tolerated by any of us, including the guys that run the sites. It's NOT an opinion, it is an 'agenda'. I don't fully understand what is in it for him to continue to state this position that he knows is factually wrong, other than that it produces 'students' for this mentoring this that he does. Other than that, I don't know why he keeps insisting this nonsense. He personally KNOWS people that have great success playing hi-lo or an equivalent level 1 count. I can think of no other word to use other than deceiving....intentionally deceiving. And it should not be tolerated.

I had hoped with the announcement of his retirement that this was going to end. Sadly, it doesn't appear to be the case.

Since I have gone of the deep end with your little nudge, Midwest player, let me just say again. While I play hi-lo and am very pleased with my results, I honestly don't care what count players choose and use. There are successful players using all sorts of different counts including some very advanced stuff, I can't comprehend. There is no one single way to succeed at card counting. I just don't think it is fair or should be tolerated when some member of this community self labels himself some sort of 25 year expert (when his own posted results don't support thato_O) and then intentionally posts false statements misleading others for some sort of personal agenda and/or gain.

And I am not going to comment further so please don't instigate. o_O
 
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KewlJ

Well-Known Member
I also, think I should correct the record, Midwest Player. The numbers you posted that started this whole thing, concerning my average annual earnings from blackjack where not exactly accurate. They were a bit high. My EV from blackjack play averages 70-75k annually, A bit more from some supplemental stuff (down this year with 8 weeks lost due to medical :(). That is the EV. My actual results from BJ play range from 50k to 90k, with one outlier year in each direction.

I know the point you were attempting to make and I don't object to you using my name to do so, although I don't consider that I am competing or comparing to anyone other than myself. But I though I should correct the bit over-stated numbers in the name of accuracy.
 
KewlJ said:
the 25 year fulltime player....who makes 32-38k a year (his numbers) playing a level 2 WITH ASC. You know the guy that states NO ONE can make any money playing hi-lo or a similar level 1 count and insists everyone should play a level 2 count.
The same guy who only uses a 1-4 play-all at 2D?
If so, that same guy asked me recently how I could say that a calibration for 'count-per-2D' could be more accurate than say 'count-per-1/2D'.
 

ZeeBabar

Banned
Well, the streak ended last night, probably on an error by me. last round of the day, I am down by $50 (after having recovered from being down $700), DD game. Some 60 cards have been dealt, RC is Plus 1, TC is slightly higher (maybe 1.35?). To get back on positive side, I bet $75. Dealer shows 4 up, first base gets 2 tens, second ploppy flat betting $200 gets 10,7, I get 10,3. The other two stand, I pause (now the count is minus) and I am not sure if I should hit a 10.3 against a 4 with a TC of probably Minus 2-3+ but ploppy at first base says "are you crazy?", high betting ploppy in the middle seems to agree, dealer wants me to make a signal and the pit lady is standing next to me and waiting. I stand. Dealer turns over a 9 (for a dealer total of 13) and the card I maybe should have drawn was a 5, The next card was also a 5 (dealer showed it). Dealer would have had a 17, I would have had an 18. Shucks.
 

Good Guy

Active Member
ZeeBabar said:
Well, the streak ended last night, probably on an error by me. last round of the day, I am down by $50 (after having recovered from being down $700), DD game. Some 60 cards have been dealt, RC is Plus 1, TC is slightly higher (maybe 1.35?). To get back on positive side, I bet $75. Dealer shows 4 up, first base gets 2 tens, second ploppy flat betting $200 gets 10,7, I get 10,3. The other two stand, I pause (now the count is minus) and I am not sure if I should hit a 10.3 against a 4 with a TC of probably Minus 2-3+ but ploppy at first base says "are you crazy?", high betting ploppy in the middle seems to agree, dealer wants me to make a signal and the pit lady is standing next to me and waiting. I stand. Dealer turns over a 9 (for a dealer total of 13) and the card I maybe should have drawn was a 5, The next card was also a 5 (dealer showed it). Dealer would have had a 17, I would have had an 18. Shucks.
Here an out of the box idea. Check blackjack book to determine what would be the index to hit 13 against dealer 4. Then come back and post it. This way you will always remember it, forum readers may learn something instead of reading bunch of "if I hit I would have this or that" leave this stuff for the gambling degenerates.
 
Good Guy said:
Here an out of the box idea. Check blackjack book to determine what would be the index to hit 13 against dealer 4. Then come back and post it.
Yes, ZEEBAB, please let us know what the correct index is for hitting 13v4.
 

ZeeBabar

Banned
xengrifter said:
Yes, ZEEBAB, please let us know what the correct index is for hitting 13v4.
Nah, too much work. I will just continue to stand. Probably helps longevity if I dont know the index and certainly will not upset ploppies at the table if I stand. If there are kind folks who would share the answer its great, if they dont, its okay.
 

KewlJ

Well-Known Member
paymypush said:
-5? True count? Come on...TC -5 isn't a real thing is it? :eek: I thought that was like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. o_O

I have seen a few TC -2's...but it's pretty rare. At Tc -1, I start stretching my legs...and warming up the jets. :D
 
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