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chessplayer

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Your objection would have been valid, except for the fact that most casinos switch from hand shuffled to CSM and not the other way around.

BTW, I wonder how does crown shuffle. I have read about 2 passes but despite an internet search I still do not get what a pass is. I do know what a riffle is though.

AussiePlayer said:
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 26, 2009

Casino Review: Crown Casino (Melbourne, Australia)

Given how long ago that was written, I wouldn't read too much into it, there are still shoe games at Crown, you just need to know where they are.
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Koz1984

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Crown hand shuffling is quite rare, unless you're in the Mahogany room, however, it does happen if an ASM breaks own. I'm not quite familiar with shuffling terms, given I don't engage in any AP maneuvers with respect to shuffling, but I have seen the manual shuffle several times.

The dealer will break the deck into two four deck piles, and place them side by side. They will then pick around half to 3/4 of a deck from either side, then riffle them together and place them in front. After doing this, they will repeat this process. This, I gather, is what is meant by two passes? On the second pass they will interweave the decks only 50% to show the pit and surveillance that a shuffle has actually occurred, and that they haven't merely presented the 8 deck pile unshuffled.
 
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chessplayer

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Oh, you mean the riffle where after the first riffle, they will take half a deck from this riffled once pile, then riffle it with half a deck from either unshuffled side? Then place half of this to the shuffled pile?

How do ya get into this Mahagony room?

Koz1984 said:
Crown hand shuffling is quite rare, unless you're in the Mahogany room, however, it does happen if an ASM breaks own. I'm not quite familiar with shuffling terms, given I don't engage in any AP maneuvers with respect to shuffling, but I have seen the manual shuffle several times.

The dealer will break the deck into two four deck piles, and place them side by side. They will then pick around half to 3/4 of a deck from either side, then riffle them together and place them in front. After doing this, they will repeat this process. This, I gather, is what is meant by two passes? On the second pass they will interweave the decks only 50% to show the pit and surveillance that a shuffle has actually occurred, and that they haven't merely presented the 8 deck pile unshuffled.
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Koz1984

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The Mahogany room requires a platinum level signature club card. Conversely, you could bring with you 10k and prove you're from interstate.
 
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chessplayer

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Inside do they shuffle the same way? And was my description accurate?

Koz1984 said:
The Mahogany room requires a platinum level signature club card. Conversely, you could bring with you 10k and prove you're from interstate.
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chessplayer

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The perfect pair is something unknown to me though. Does it require same JsJs or 7c7c and I wonder too about the payoffs. Hmm..
 
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Koz1984

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An offsuit pair pays 6:1, coloured pays 12:1 and perfect pays 25:1. Not a beatable side bet, so wouldn't play it if I were you. I'd stick to pure counting or shuffling AP maneuvers, if you've got that skill.
 
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