Most effective table counting

shadroch

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You really don't get it,do you? You have now quoted the same sentence several times and don't have a clue to what ZG is refering to,apparently.
ZG is talking about playing heads up with a dealer and spreading to three hands in order to get thru bad decks quicker,in order to have new,potentially good decks appear that much faster.
What do you think he's talking about?

Say I'm playing at a $5 table,but using a $15 base unit bet.
Off the top,I'm betting $15. Three rounds in,the count is [negative] 7. If there are other players,I'd get up and take a bathroom break,letting the others burn thru the negative deck. But thats not an option,so you spread to three hands,betting $5 on each. The shoe ends quicker,with you now getting a fresh deck that much faster.
How does this square with your theory?
 
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biggamejames

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shadroch said:
You really don't get it,do you? You have now quoted the same sentence several times and don't have a clue to what ZG is refering to,apparently.
ZG is talking about playing heads up with a dealer and spreading to three hands in order to get thru bad decks quicker,in order to have new,potentially good decks appear that much faster.
What do you think he's talking about?
See now you are so blinded by your desire to formulate an argument where none exists.

I full understand exactly what ZG is saying....

This is the exact crap you posted after i talked about the very same issue with a small nuace

Huh?With the addition of an extra hand,the high cards would come quicker?
I'm sorry,but you've crossed the line from speaking voodoo to just plain gibberish
You can apply that b/s to the very post of ZG and see how stupid you sound.

go on with the childish antics man.:grin:
 

shadroch

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I really should have known better than to try to edjumicate a guy who keeps referring to "the dealers bust card",but I was in a generous mood.
 

biggamejames

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shadroch said:
I really should have known better than to try to edjumicate a guy who keeps referring to "the dealers bust card",but I was in a generous mood.

Sorry i wasted your time....Especially being that i have the audacity to mention the dealers bust card....ooooh what a taboo!!!!:p :p :p :p

I guess that autmatically means i am going to lose all the pennies i saved up planning to become a millionaire counting cards:celebrate all because i never got down the true card counters lingo...

woe is me woe is me woe is me...:cry:
 
jee_pack said:
I'm not sure how to refer to this but lets call it table counting. We'll say you have to be sitting down and playing each hand. That's all, so you could be playing alone or with 6 people.

So what's up with that?

-What amount of players at a table should you consider playing with and which ones should you never play. Can you still win in the long run no matter if you are playing with 6 people, 5, 4, 3, 2 people or by your self? What are the different aspect of each situation, what are the pro and cons of playing alone, with 2 players, 5 players etc...

-Then, me being new to this, is it best to count each card one by one. Or to lets say, count all starting hands in pairs, then count all other cards in singles... What are the best time to peak at the cards? When they are being dealt? Or when the hand is over? Or a combination? And if this answer varies depending on how many players are at the table, please mention it.

-Lastly, this is an easy one, I was just wondering, is it easy to see the cards being dealt to third base? Them being the farthest away from the pack.

-Also, if anyone has a take on this, since its best to verifie the count (21 count) of the dealer's hand. Is it a better approach to count the RC at same time as the total as soon as each new card gets added to the dealer's hand. Or do some of you find it easier to lets say... Count the 21 total, then while he takes all the hands, re-count the new RC by adding all the extra cards the dealer has added to his first face up card... And if you have any "special trick" here, do you also aply it to your hand when it's your turn?

Thanks in advance
the amount of people at the table affect only ONE thing.. speed.. if your playing at a disadvantage, play at a full table with a slow dealer, and if your at an advantage (really good card counter) do the opposite
 
biggamejames said:
I didnt mind his two hands. What i hated about it was that he would wait until the last second when we had all placed our bets and he would literally sneak in his second hand which i thought was a bitch ass move.
why? it doesnt matter AT ALL.. you seem like a ploppy.. the type of person who would say "betting $13? thats bad luck! only bet amounts divisible by 5!" it doesnt matter that he puts out another hand, and even if it did/does it is negligible and you switching your $300 to $10 would only be done if the pit boss came over and said "oh btw, blackjacks now pay 6:5" (of course u shudnt be playing, but its just an example)
 
biggamejames said:
Again, i am a noob at this stuff so i dont have enough experience on this issue.
i am willing to bet the SD/DD games you play are over .6% house edge, in which you should be playing shoe games.. what are the rules? if its something like the casino near me (which is the best casino in chicagoland) where DD has H17, double 10-11, no resplits, and no DAS, then you better march yourself right over to the shoe games or you are an idiot.. use the calculator on here and calculate the house edge, and if its over .6% get out of there.. btw if you think that the rules i listed above are the best in chicagoland, thats not what im saying, im saying that the shoe games at that casino are the best (.47%), but they also offer a HORRIBLE DD game and advertise it on their huge billboard
 
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