My "Professional Gambling" career begins today!

[BMDD]

Why be the voice of reason at all? If the op wants to be reckless and take risks, this is exactly the time in life to do it. Whats important here is his acceptance to go find a job regardless of its status if his AP plan falls flat. Who cares if his adventures only last a week or a year.Its not wrong to be young and carefree, its wrong to be careless. Its not a great plan he's cooked up here, but its part of a life lesson that a young person can learn from. I would be much more critical of someone with a family and career trying to be something considered at that point in life irresponsible. We should all wish we made more mistakes while we were younger, they usually aren't so dire at that point. Not to mention a lesson is much more valuable learned from a mistake than it is a success.

Thanks for chiming in here, Bojack. I know you don't post with a great amount of frequency, but in the back of my head I was hoping you would post in this thread. I have found many of your post's very helpful and insightful. That goes for you too, KewlJason.

As far as not being a great plan, I would prefer that you are refering to my initially posted plan as opposed to the more serious one in my post preceding yours.

 

[sagefr0g]

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As far as not being a great plan, I would prefer that you are refering to my initially posted plan as opposed to the more serious one in my post preceding yours.

have a backup plan BMDD, maybe another skill than AP, such as some academic skills or work experience. diversify, as they say.
one thing, say a year or so down the line you decide you want to get in the workforce, sorta thing. one of the questions you'll usually be asked is what have you been doing for the last couple of years, sorta thing.
if you ever do get into the workforce, well just me maybe but i think you will notice it can be a bit of a race, to some degree a game of 'catch up' between you and your work associates.

 

[Billy C1]

Go for it

Both Jason and Bojack have far more "real world" experience at this than me so you're wise to heed their posts.
You seem wise beyond your years and appear to have the "makeup" for this venture. An important thing to remember is DISCIPLINE!
Hope you succeed at this.

BillyC1

 

[kewljason]

Why be the voice of reason at all? If the op wants to be reckless and take risks, this is exactly the time in life to do it. Whats important here is his acceptance to go find a job regardless of its status if his AP plan falls flat. Who cares if his adventures only last a week or a year.Its not wrong to be young and carefree, its wrong to be careless. Its not a great plan he's cooked up here, but its part of a life lesson that a young person can learn from. I would be much more critical of someone with a family and career trying to be something considered at that point in life irresponsible. We should all wish we made more mistakes while we were younger, they usually aren't so dire at that point. Not to mention a lesson is much more valuable learned from a mistake than it is a success.

I completely concur, Mr Bojack. When you are young and have minimal responsibilities and expenses is exactly the time to go for it. That's been my position for several years when defending my own situation. However, there is a difference between being carefree and adventurous and being reckless. Perhaps it was my own personal brief exprience of homelessness when I was 18, that makes me put such importance to having a roof over your head and a place to call home. Once a person gets into a bad situation of not having a home, it can be a vicious cycle difficult to escape. I have seen it in my experience of living in a shelter and I see it with some "professional poker player" aquaintances that live in thier cars most of the time. I am not suggesting BMDD is being reckless. Sounds like he has put some though into his plans. I personally like his second plan better than his first. I think it at least gives him a fighting chance. Like Billy C1, I sincerely hope he suceeds.

 

[BMDD]

have a backup plan BMDD, maybe another skill than AP, such as some academic skills or work experience. diversify, as they say.
one thing, say a year or so down the line you decide you want to get in the workforce, sorta thing. one of the questions you'll usually be asked is what have you been doing for the last couple of years, sorta thing.
if you ever do get into the workforce, well just me maybe but i think you will notice it can be a bit of a race, to some degree a game of 'catch up' between you and your work associates.

Thanks for the good advice, fr0g. I have been working for the last 3 years as a pizza boy then as a casino dealer. Either of which I am willing to accept as a back-up plan. I imagine I would be able to find potential work doing either of those jobs in just about any gambling town if times get tough during my journies.

Eventually I would like to go back to school loan-free funded by gambling winnings. I believe my life would be more fulfilling to do something more noble than gambling or taking advantage of other's weaknesses while feeding their addictions(obviously referring to dealing, though could be applicable to delivering pizza as well).

 

[blackchipjim]

Gambling Pro

If you were my kid I would be telling you to get your life together. The ratio of gamblers and the ones who make thier profession is not something to pursue. Get your act together and get an education then a real job. If you want to pursue a professional gambling career after those goals are obtained you are in much better shape then uneducated and unemployable. Chewing you out no, encouraging you to do something with your life, yes. I know of one fellow that went the other way and is successful as a poker player to the tune of low six figuires. Is he successful? sure for now. We are talking about your life not some summer vacation that may go bad or turn out great. Yes It's the sense of reason talking not a cheering section for hopeful gambling pros.

 

[Billy C1]

Northern Nevada

I noticed your mention "northern Nevada" as a possible "worksite". Can I ask why?

BillyC1

 

[shadroch]

With a $1200, now $1355 bankroll, what does he have to lose? Worst case scenerio, it last two weeks and he moves on with his life. Best case, he does it a few months, makes some money and realizes it's not for everyone and finds a real job.

 

[BMDD]

If you were my kid I would be telling you to get your life together. The ratio of gamblers and the ones who make thier profession is not something to pursue. Get your act together and get an education then a real job. If you want to pursue a professional gambling career after those goals are obtained you are in much better shape then uneducated and unemployable. Chewing you out no, encouraging you to do something with your life, yes. I know of one fellow that went the other way and is successful as a poker player to the tune of low six figuires. Is he successful? sure for now. We are talking about your life not some summer vacation that may go bad or turn out great. Yes It's the sense of reason talking not a cheering section for hopeful gambling pros.

I appriciate your concern, Jim. I do plan to go back to school(see my post prior to this one). I understand that my plans seem out of order, but I assure you there is a reason for that. I believe my quality of life will be greater in the long run if I persue my goals in order I have decided. My parents have been very caring and supportive, and they have not interfered with me taking my own direction in life.

 

[BMDD]

I noticed your mention "northern Nevada" as a possible "worksite". Can I ask why?

BillyC1

Reno, xWendoverx, $5 mins..

 

[BUZZARD]

I find it a little disturbing that you might move to nevada to make your living with 6x 8x your current roll. This is peanuts. Do you have 8 people or whatever to share your rent with out there too? Egads, man -surely you will soon have to pay actual rent like most people and cannot resign yourself to the confines of a small domicile infected with hemp smoking hippies. And quit poker now before its too late- ugg- do you see those toothless 69 year old men living in those rooms- extremely cantankerous folk-gumming insults at each other-

 

[BMDD]

With a $1200, now $1355 bankroll, what does he have to lose? Worst case scenerio, it last two weeks and he moves on with his life. Best case, he does it a few months, makes some money and realizes it's not for everyone and finds a real job.

I have already stated that I will most likely get another job regardless of my gambling results, the only exception would be if I hit serious positive flux. in the next week or so. The whole idea is to afford myself the opportunity to get a real job, not dealing cards or delivering pizza.

 

[Jack_Black]

I find it a little disturbing that you might move to nevada to make your living with 6x 8x your current roll. This is peanuts. Do you have 8 people or whatever to share your rent with out there too? Egads, man -surely you will soon have to pay actual rent like most people and cannot resign yourself to the confines of a small domicile infected with hemp smoking hippies. And quit poker now before its too late- ugg- do you see those toothless 69 year old men living in those rooms- extremely cantankerous folk-gumming insults at each other-

I've met plenty of poker "pros" who make their income only from poker, but live in their car or one of those weekly rate rooms.

To be fair, there are those kind of people out there doing it that way.

 

[BMDD]

I find it a little disturbing that you might move to nevada to make your living with 6x 8x your current roll. This is peanuts. Do you have 8 people or whatever to share your rent with out there too? Egads, man -surely you will soon have to pay actual rent like most people and cannot resign yourself to the confines of a small domicile infected with hemp smoking hippies. And quit poker now before its too late- ugg- do you see those toothless 69 year old men living in those rooms- extremely cantankerous folk-gumming insults at each other-

You're an idiot. That's the best I've got.

 

[blackchipjim]

Have fun

The best advice I could give you is have fun on your endeavors. Being young and you seem to have your senses about you enjoy yourself. Don't become disalussioned with short success and keep to your plan. I do wish you all the luck in the world and do keep us posted on your road to riches.You are doing something that some of us could only wish to able to do.

 

[kewljason]

I've met plenty of poker "pros" who make their income only from poker, but live in their car or one of those weekly rate rooms.

To be fair, there are those kind of people out there doing it that way.

We may know some of the same poker players, Jack. :laugh: I'll bet I have crossed paths with you and not known it.

Common guys, No need to be insulting here. Plus I can think of worse situations than a 20 year old sharing living quarters with a few hemp smoking buds. (assuming at least some have incomes...:laugh

Now, if we are going to do the 'Bojack carefree and adventure plan' we need to re-write it a bit. Scrap Reno and Wentover. Head to Vegas with your 5 grand BR. Far more $5 games and poker rooms. Rent a weekly room in one of the hotels on Paradise, near Hard Rock and UNLV. Not the weeklys on the northern part of strip above the Strat where the prositutes live.

1.) head downtown, play $5 double deck games at El C, plaza until you have been thrown out a dozen times.
2.) Buy 2 american casino guide and collect all the signup bonues and make casino runs playing all the match play coupons. (food coupons will help as well)
3.) Play some of the outlying $3 games as well as the many $5 shoe games around town.
4.) Head back downtown and play double deck until you have been thrown out 12 more times.

Repeat this routine each month. I have left out the part of the plan dealing with poker, as it falls outside my field of knowledge. Hopefully some of you poker guys will fill in the part. Also for even greater bargains and bonuses, you should check with our resident bonus expert, Shad. He knows all the deals to know. Getting him to share them is another matter. :laugh:

 

[Albee]

You've got some work cut out for yourself

Funny, no one mentioned discipline. You have to have it. Set your limit and don’t be so stuck on yourself that every session has to be a winning session. I have seen many people (me included) get ahead by a few hundred and think, maybe a little more. That’s when the train wreck happens and you try getting out of the hole, only to get into it deeper.

I know a guy that supplements his retirement check by going to a casino and once he doubles his buy in of a $100. bucks, he’s gone. This son of a gun has a very impressive win history. He is good with what his goal is.

Remember, pigs get slaughtered. Don’t burn yourself out at a store that has a good game. Milk it.

 

[metronome]

Geez, where do I start. Dude, get f""""in education. or Not. I did not. Become VERY GOOD at SOMETHING. I did, thank God. BJ is a great game, where some people actually make money or a living. It is not and never will be a "career path". Casinos are predatory to the nth degree. You are young. Do somthin' else foolish and capricious. I fancied myself as a "musician". I am a very good drummer. Was I a wise, mature,settled, young person? Hell no. Your perception of things will be different in very short order.
DO NOT ABANDON YOUR INTEREST IN THIS CRAZY GAME WE CALL BLACK JACK.
BUT... allow yourself to grow into it ...financially and mentally.
Good luck ..young Skywalker.

 

[moo321]

You're an idiot. That's the best I've got.

Wow, are you serious? You come in here telling us you have a $1200 roll, and you're getting an attitude when people give you the good advice that you're probably not going to make it?

I mean, excuse us if people are a little rude, but you need to get realistic, and we're all telling you from personal experience. Your skills don't matter that much. If you can make $50 an hour, but you don't know how to manage a bankroll, you're gonna lose your ass. And $1200 is not an adequate roll, even for a world-class pro, at a 4-8 game.

You would want at least a few month's living expenses, and at least $2000, if not $3000. Why not just work part time and get a better roll together before you go pro?

 

[BMDD]

Wow, are you serious? You come in here telling us you have a $1200 roll, and you're getting an attitude when people give you the good advice that you're probably not going to make it?

I mean, excuse us if people are a little rude, but you need to get realistic, and we're all telling you from personal experience. Your skills don't matter that much. If you can make $50 an hour, but you don't know how to manage a bankroll, you're gonna lose your ass. And $1200 is not an adequate roll, even for a world-class pro, at a 4-8 game.

You would want at least a few month's living expenses, and at least $2000, if not $3000. Why not just work part time and get a better roll together before you go pro?

Have you read this whole thread, Moo? Buzzard was referring to my plan of playing single deck with a bare minimum of $7200. Then he continues to belittle me over playing poker. He sounds to me like an arrogant failed AP slinging insults on the internet.

Just to make it clear, I do not plan to make a "career" out of gambling with a $1200 bankroll. I plan to go back to work for a while then support myself as a traveling gambler once I have at least $7500+$1500 for expenses.