Need a bet spread for this game

pooptarts92

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I know I've posted this game before but only 1 person ran the sim and the spread seemed sort of large for my bankroll. The table min will be $5.
Rules:
6 decks
H17
ES vs tens, NO SURRENDER VS ACE (no hole card)
No RSA
One card per split ace
DA2
DAS
Dealer only takes ORIGINAL bet if they get BJ
split 3 ways
BJ pays 3:2
Insurance pays 2 to 1
Pen ranges from 1 deck cutoff to a bit less sometimes, very nice

These are the results that Dyepaintball came up with (I'm not picking on you bro, like I said it seems large for my BR) But if anyone can confirm this spread then I suppose it's good.


If you used a 1-8 spread:

0-1 = $10
2 = $25
3 = $35
4 = $50
5 = $60
6+ = $80

Win/hr: $22.34

St. Dev/hr: $253.15

ROR: 3%

I'm using Wong Halves and my BR will be 5k. Wong out at TC -1 with other people playing, tc -2 if it's heads up. If I've forgotten anything let me know.
Also, can I get a seperate sim ran for back counting with 4k? Jumping in at true 2 and wonging out at ANY negative rc.
 
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jopke

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If it is a $5 table, you could use a $5 unit. The recommended spread looks to be using a $10 unit.

1-8 is not a very aggressive spread, so I wouldn't recommend lowering the spread itself, just the unit (so $5-$40 instead of $10-$80)
 

pooptarts92

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can somebody please help me? All I want is a bet spread for this damn game and I got 103 views and 1 frickin reply. Please guys.
 

jack.jackson

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I need to post a thread about using the CapterX function in CVdata, before i can ascertain whether this is correct or not, do stand-by.
 

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FLASH1296

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A bankroll question.

8-1 is an anemic spread for a [adjective deleted] shoe game.

I would suggest roughly double that.

The question becomes — can you afford to bet $5 to $80 ?
 
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pooptarts92

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FLASH1296 said:
8-1 is an anemic spread for a pretty poor shoe game.

I would suggest roughly double that.

The question becomes — can you afford to bet $5 to $80 ?
With a 5k bankroll? I wouldn't know lol. It's up to the sims to tell me what type of risk that will give me.
 

MeWin$

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sim

I got ur ROR for 10-80 at 16.2 % for 5k. I ran the sim.

Ill give you one for 5% ROR.
Nope, It cant be done with a ten dollar min under 14% risk, no matter what your spread.

If u wong out at -1 TC, then 10 to 90 will give you 4.5% RoR and 19.30 an hour.

Good Luck :)
 

pooptarts92

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MeWin$ said:
I got ur ROR for 10-80 at 16.2 % for 5k. I ran the sim.

Ill give you one for 5% ROR.
Nope, It cant be done with a ten dollar min under 14% risk, no matter what your spread.

If u wong out at -1 TC, then 10 to 90 will give you 4.5% RoR and 19.30 an hour.

Good Luck :)
I honestly don't know where this $10 min is coming from, but it's a $5 MINIMUM! Five DOLLARS!!!:cry:
 

MeWin$

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Oops, sorry :)

This is with Hilo full indices including slitting tens, so adjust to Wong's accordingly. 5-100 wonging out at -1 TC with
TC 1 = 10
TC 2 = 25
TC 3 = 40
TC 4 = 55
TC 5 = 80
TC 6 = 100
Will give you 22.00 an hour w a 4.8% RoR.
But if you do this, not only will you lose money because there wont be a fresh shoe availible, unless you actually just sit there at the table and not play, waiting but this looks really weird and bccarat WILL notice you.

Here's a play all that you might actually get away with for a decent amount of time:

5 to 60
TC 1 = 10
TC 2 = 25
TC 3 = 45
TC 4 = 60
19.00 an hour with 5.8% RoR

Dont camp out though and watch out for attentive PB's :)

Good luck again :)
 

moo321

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FLASH1296 said:
8-1 is an anemic spread for a pretty poor shoe game.

I would suggest roughly double that.

The question becomes — can you afford to bet $5 to $80 ?
I wouldn't really consider ES10 and a one deck cut to be a "poor" game...
 

pooptarts92

Well-Known Member
MeWin$ said:
Oops, sorry :)

This is with Hilo full indices including slitting tens, so adjust to Wong's accordingly. 5-100 wonging out at -1 TC with
TC 1 = 10
TC 2 = 25
TC 3 = 40
TC 4 = 55
TC 5 = 80
TC 6 = 100
Will give you 22.00 an hour w a 4.8% RoR.
But if you do this, not only will you lose money because there wont be a fresh shoe availible, unless you actually just sit there at the table and not play, waiting but this looks really weird and bccarat WILL notice you.

Here's a play all that you might actually get away with for a decent amount of time:

5 to 60
TC 1 = 10
TC 2 = 25
TC 3 = 45
TC 4 = 60
19.00 an hour with 5.8% RoR

Dont camp out though and watch out for attentive PB's :)

Good luck again :)
Ok I got a few questions.
1. Are you sure I can get away with a 100 max bet with just a 5k bankroll?
2. How did you know it was the baccarat casino... lol you must live here too.
 

MeWin$

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If u wong yeah a hundred's OK, but it wont be your bankroll doing you in, it'll be how odd looking it'll be at that casino, im banned in pretty much every place in town and im just waiting for personnel to change before i go back.

Keep your sessions short and avoid a couple of the older dealers:)

Who are you anyway? U said you were a dealer at Yellowhead? PM me if you prefer.
 
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