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[KewlJ]

Welcome to cookingwithcards. And my apologies for my earlier mixing up of two members.

I gotta say that I took BoSox's "She has a lot of ambition and promise" comment as sarcasm, based on comments on another forum. Maybe that is just the cynical side of me. Hopefully it was sincere.

Seems a little strange though because on another forum BoSox is repeatedly bitching at me for helping newer players, saying stupid things put into his head, like doing so hurts existing players. It doesn't! There is enough of the pie to go around.

Anyway, I am glad to see BoSox wanting to help newer players. That is the way it should be.

 

[Counting_Is_Fun]

Yes, and this isn't new. You can't walk around nude in this "free country," can you?

If you don't like the current rules, do your part to vote out those who made them at the next election.

Eh that isn't a good example. You are right, we can't walk around nude.
But the government can't, and shouldn't be able to tell me WHAT I have to wear.

 

[BoSox]

Seems a little strange though because on another forum BoSox is repeatedly bitching at me for helping newer players, saying stupid things put into his head, like doing so hurts existing players. It doesn't! There is enough of the pie to go around.

KewlJ, I am not about to bring our shit here and frankly neither should you. Who can you help out anyway as your lifetime banned on two of the biggest gaming sites? I don't want either of us banned here but I realize that you always fly off the handle and always lose your composure. So try to relax and enjoy yourself for a change.

 

[Cookingwithcards]

Welcome to cookingwithcards. And my apologies for my earlier mixing up of two members.

I gotta say that I took BoSox's "She has a lot of ambition and promise" comment as sarcasm, based on comments on another forum. Maybe that is just the cynical side of me. Hopefully it was sincere.

Seems a little strange though because on another forum BoSox is repeatedly bitching at me for helping newer players, saying stupid things put into his head, like doing so hurts existing players. It doesn't! There is enough of the pie to go around.

Anyway, I am glad to see BoSox wanting to help newer players. That is the way it should be.

Maybe you're right, but I'm deciding to take it as a compliment until he says it's not!! I have respect for him, so, either way I'm gonna take it as a compliment that he took the time to write that!

 

[BoSox]

Welcome to cookingwithcards. And my apologies for my earlier mixing up of two members.

I gotta say that I took BoSox's "She has a lot of ambition and promise" comment as sarcasm, based on comments on another forum. Maybe that is just the cynical side of me. Hopefully it was sincere.

Seems a little strange though because on another forum BoSox is repeatedly bitching at me for helping newer players, saying stupid things put into his head, like doing so hurts existing players. It doesn't! There is enough of the pie to go around.

Anyway, I am glad to see BoSox wanting to help newer players. That is the way it should be.

KJ, regarding what you said about me repeatedly bitching at you for helping newer players you have that part of it wrong, I agree with you as I do that myself. Here is the problem, this week for instance while in a debate with Eliot on another board, he asked you what you have done for yourself and your response was that you have supported yourself for 16 years through AP play. Okay good for you, as I am sure you were once again thrilled to tell the world all about it. As I am frequented to do when I hear that, I followed up with a negative response giving my view on the matter. Here is part of what I said to you in response to your need to brag.

That is in the past tense and it seems like you are always saying it, does not help yourself or one single advantage player. You never pass an opportunity to let everyone know, one way or another of your good fortune. After sixteen years of earning a living at a tough profession, you would think at some point in time that you would learn that AP Play is a thankless job without glory and that real AP's get their respect by Keeping their mouths shut.

 

[BoSox]

Maybe you're right, but I'm deciding to take it as a compliment until he says it's not!! I have respect for him, so, either way I'm gonna take it as a compliment that he took the time to write that!

Cookingwithcards, on the site "casino vegas, talk" in a thread titled: "Mickey Crimm is a fine upstanding citizen" you and I are being the but end of a few jokes by one member-only and I thought I should tell you about it. That one member who likes to have fun "at other people's expense" and who is now making the jokes is Bob21 on that site, Dbs6582 on BJTF, Bjo32 on this site. I did respond to one of his jokes somewhat negatively while you and I were debating on the other forum. In the post I said:

"Bob, as you know things change quickly. I threw her a slow one right down the middle, now I think she will hit a slam off of me."

That is the extent of my rudeness towards you on the other site sorry. Now, Bjo32 it is time for an apology to the nice lady who caused you no harm, and also to me for putting me in the middle of all of that shit talk.

 

[JohnCrover]

Welcome to the forum, Cookingwithcards. If you happen to achieve any sort of success over an extended period of time the members here are going to call you fraud or a liar. Just kind of the culture I'm not going to say any names but you can probably figure it out yourself.
Anyways, welcome to the forum =)

 

[21forme]

on the site "casino vegas, talk" i

Bosox, please keep other forum conversations on those other forums. Don't drag the infantile nonsense that goes on there over to a "civilized" forum like this one.

 

[BoSox]

Welcome to the forum, Cookingwithcards. If you happen to achieve any sort of success over an extended period of time the members here are going to call you fraud or a liar.

John, Please don't tell us that you are going to be another one of those glory hounds? If so you had a good teacher and I am not blaming you.

 

[KewlJ]

John, Please don't tell us that you are going to be another one of those glory hounds? If so you had a good teacher and I am not blaming you.

It's funny, when I started posting and sharing my experiences, including results, I was averaging 10k a year for the first few years. No one ever called me a "glory hound". As I started to move up in stakes and made 25, 30, grand a year, no one called me a glory hound. But now playing mid-level stakes, earning upper 5 figures a year for a decade and all of the sudden I am a "glory hound"?

The money I make playing blackjack is not a lot of money. Especially when you consider no benefits. I don't know what your issue with this is BoSox?

On another forum that 21forme would prefer not be mentioned, your friend, whatever handle he uses here (so many different handles, I can't keep track) mentioned blackjack players (not the loon and his phony VP claims) but blackjack players in this community who talk about making $500k, $700k a year. I am not calling anyone a liar but that is unrealistic to me. Maybe you get away with that for a short time. Maybe a year if your lucky, probably only part of a year. You just can't play the stakes necessary to make any where close to that kind of money from blackjack card counting.

So, I am not a math brainiac type guy, so I decided my contribution would be to share my experiences and journey and show just what a real player playing mid-level stakes, and playing for longevity can really and realistically make over a number of years. So what the F is wrong with that BoSox? Why do you have such a problem with that? I am proud of my career and I am proud of my contribution of sharing that experience so players can see just what is realistic.

And by the way, I have shared all aspects BoSox, what I like to call "the good, the bad and the ugly", meaning good day, which are 5 figure winning days for me, as well as bad days like nearly 20k loss. I shared my worse week of 29k loss and was ridiculed for a month about it. I shared my worse year (since those early years) where I made 26k, about what a McDonalds worker makes. So you have a funny definition of a "glory hound".

 

[JohnCrover]

If someone wants to make a lot of money card counting is not the way to go. If you want to play BJ for a living then it has to be out of a love for the game. If your goal is to make a bunch of cash then there's other avenues in life that will make you more money if money is what you're after.

 

[Cookingwithcards]

Cookingwithcards, on the site "casino vegas, talk" in a thread titled: "Mickey Crimm is a fine upstanding citizen" you and I are being the but end of a few jokes by one member-only and I thought I should tell you about it. That one member who likes to have fun "at other people's expense" and who is now making the jokes is Bob21 on that site, Dbs6582 on BJTF, Bjo32 on this site. I did respond to one of his jokes somewhat negatively while you and I were debating on the other forum. In the post I said:

"Bob, as you know things change quickly. I threw her a slow one right down the middle, now I think she will hit a slam off of me."

That is the extent of my rudeness towards you on the other site sorry. Now, Bjo32 it is time for an apology to the nice lady who caused you no harm, and also to me for putting me in the middle of all of that shit talk.

Bosox thank you for telling me, I saw what Bob thought was funny. It's not.....and just shows his low level of class. My husband is not on these forums, and shouldn't be brought into any discussion, especially one so disgusting. I would imagine you feel the same way (protective) about your wife. Obviously you know it's not flirting....I guess I can't have a high opinion of someone without wanting to sleep with them? The only reasoning I can think of, for him to say what he said, is projection....he wishes someone was flirting with him maybe?


Are we okay now? No more rude comments? I think I've gone through enough " initiation"!!!!

 

[BoSox]

So, I am not a math brainiac type guy, so I decided my contribution would be to share my experiences and journey and show just what a real player playing mid-level stakes, and playing for longevity can really and realistically make over a number of years. So what the F is wrong with that BoSox? Why do you have such a problem with that?

I will tell you what one of my F problems is when you say the sentence:

So, I am not a math brainiac type guy, so I decided my contribution would be to share my experiences and journey and show just what a real player playing mid-level stakes, and playing for longevity can really and realistically make over a number of years.

You completely ignore that "as you say all real players playing mid-level stakes, playing for longevity" players are playing blackjack in all areas of the country, are in fact playing under all kinds of different conditions than you are. Including but not limited to hours played, time spent traveling back and forth to different casinos, many players cannot casino hop by quantity. Now I am not saying that playing in the Vegas area is easy by any means but it is in fact a completely different playing experience than players playing in other sections of the country. Just what should and should not be expected to earn financially as well as longevity terms, should not all exactly have the same comparisons, as the way that you present it, that is not exactly a right way of comparing things.

 

[BoSox]

Are we okay now? No more rude comments? I think I've gone through enough " initiation"!!!!

Yes, you already paid at least a year's worth of dues.

 

[Cookingwithcards]

Yes, you already paid at least a year's worth of dues.

Thank you!

 

[Hell'nBack]

Why do people keep saying this? This isn't a free country. Never has been. You can't just do whatever you want. You need a license to drive. You have to pay taxes. You can't assault someone. Etc.

There are rules. Some are in the Constitution. Some are in the US Code. Some are in state codes. Some are executive orders.

Then there's Tikkun Olam !

 

[Counting_Is_Fun]

What a bunch of nonsense...Isn't this what we try to avoid here? Instead of Norm's and other forums?
BoSox just go away if this is what you always bring to this board.
JohnCrover why do you still try to give people advice here? People can easily look up your previous commentary.
KewlJ thanks for the insight.
Cookingwithcards...be careful with who you think your friends are here, or on all the other forums.

 

[BoSox]

If someone wants to make a lot of money card counting is not the way to go. If you want to play BJ for a living then it has to be out of a love for the game. If your goal is to make a bunch of cash then there's other avenues in life that will make you more money if money is what you're after.

Good post-John, I have no idea why someone has a problem with it.

 

[BoSox]

What a bunch of nonsense...Isn't this what we try to avoid here? Instead of Norm's and other forums?
BoSox just go away if this is what you always bring to this board

Please tell us what we are trying to avoid here on this forum? If you mean nonsense, I expressed my opinion which I believe made a good counterpoint. I believe that I was not breaking any rules.

KewlJ thanks for the insight.

If KJ wants to give annual reports every year, that you enjoy, that is his choice. I had my say on the matter, that is all I can do.

 

[KewlJ]

If KJ wants to give annual reports every year, that you enjoy, that is his choice. I had my say on the matter, that is all I can do.

Correction: stating your opinion is all you can do here. But on other forums you have become quite the dick attacking me in very personal ways about things that have nothing to do with blackjack or this particular issue.

And don't give me this crap that it is separate from here and not to bring that here. These things are not in a vacuum.

You know what my request for you is BoSox: Just act like the adult and reasonable and respected member that you were for years and not the hate filled group of people that are on a hate forum because they aren't welcome on any other forum any longer. Is that really too much to ask?