Automatic Monkey
Banned
Uh, I have a few questions
Secondly, you said that you were mostly backcounting without playing but you also said you were fronted money. Unless you were placing large bets, why would anyone need to front you money? Any player with sufficient experience for any kind of team play would have sufficient bankroll to place table minimum bets.
Thirdly, you said you were merely backcounting for "big players" but not prepared to bet big. What would happen if you saw a good count or other opportunity but there was no big player available to play it? I do believe your "new friends" would rather see it dealt out than allow you to play it. In my world, there is no such thing as seeing a good count on a blackjack table and not playing it with the fully appropriate bet. That is a sin.
Fourthly, you state that "no member of this team has ever been backed off." Do you think that any experienced player here believes that statement? We have all been backed off (and sometimes worse) many times, dozens of times, and most of us continue to go back and play at places where we have been backed off repeatedly. I did that last night, myself. A full-timer can be backed off several times per month. Anyone who claims to be a veteran AP who has never been backed off is either lying about being a veteran AP or lying about never being backed off.
Fifthly, are you aware it is illegal in Atlantic City for casinos to back off skilled players? Thus there is no need for cover for visiting players or hit-and-run team attacks. Only long-term players who are interested in accruing comps have to be careful to avoid half-shoeing in some stores. Your new friends did tell you this, didn't they?
Sixthly (are these adverbs even words still?) if you as a backcounter were to reverse the count, would it be possible for a big player to come in on your call and do anything but lose money? Would he not continue to bet big into a mirage advantage as the low cards kept coming out and the count appeared to get even higher while he was still betting with a negative advantage? Surely this would be worse than a highly skilled counter sending a rookie in to play a shoe that most definitely had an advantage even if the rookie made a counting error or two, would it not? Admit it, you have enough knowledge to answer this question and you know that the claim that a BP has to be a better counter than a spotter is rubbish.
I don't want to say "seventhly", so I'll (thankfully) say finally- do you think it's even possible that I could be right and your encounter was with an organization more interested in giving false hope to novice players that they have a chance of finding themselves on something like the as-seen-on-TV MIT team if they purchase overpriced training aids and services, than in actively making money from casinos? If I'm wrong, you have met the only blackjack team in the world that discusses team activities on public message boards.
My first is why a team would fail to exploit a "beard" in the form of a visitor from the UK for some high-risk, high-profit activity. A young Briton is going to look like a lamb for the slaughter in the vulgar, ugly environment of Atlantic City and being also a skilled player could get away with some wonderful things for the duration of his visit. I could surely fit you out as some arrogant young lord on holiday and you would be my "big player", if I chose to use that kind of a team approach. That is, if my intention was to make money alongside you, rather than from you.RJT said:
Secondly, you said that you were mostly backcounting without playing but you also said you were fronted money. Unless you were placing large bets, why would anyone need to front you money? Any player with sufficient experience for any kind of team play would have sufficient bankroll to place table minimum bets.
Thirdly, you said you were merely backcounting for "big players" but not prepared to bet big. What would happen if you saw a good count or other opportunity but there was no big player available to play it? I do believe your "new friends" would rather see it dealt out than allow you to play it. In my world, there is no such thing as seeing a good count on a blackjack table and not playing it with the fully appropriate bet. That is a sin.
Fourthly, you state that "no member of this team has ever been backed off." Do you think that any experienced player here believes that statement? We have all been backed off (and sometimes worse) many times, dozens of times, and most of us continue to go back and play at places where we have been backed off repeatedly. I did that last night, myself. A full-timer can be backed off several times per month. Anyone who claims to be a veteran AP who has never been backed off is either lying about being a veteran AP or lying about never being backed off.
Fifthly, are you aware it is illegal in Atlantic City for casinos to back off skilled players? Thus there is no need for cover for visiting players or hit-and-run team attacks. Only long-term players who are interested in accruing comps have to be careful to avoid half-shoeing in some stores. Your new friends did tell you this, didn't they?
Sixthly (are these adverbs even words still?) if you as a backcounter were to reverse the count, would it be possible for a big player to come in on your call and do anything but lose money? Would he not continue to bet big into a mirage advantage as the low cards kept coming out and the count appeared to get even higher while he was still betting with a negative advantage? Surely this would be worse than a highly skilled counter sending a rookie in to play a shoe that most definitely had an advantage even if the rookie made a counting error or two, would it not? Admit it, you have enough knowledge to answer this question and you know that the claim that a BP has to be a better counter than a spotter is rubbish.
I don't want to say "seventhly", so I'll (thankfully) say finally- do you think it's even possible that I could be right and your encounter was with an organization more interested in giving false hope to novice players that they have a chance of finding themselves on something like the as-seen-on-TV MIT team if they purchase overpriced training aids and services, than in actively making money from casinos? If I'm wrong, you have met the only blackjack team in the world that discusses team activities on public message boards.
