I find this thread very entertaining but I'm not sure what good it does. It sounds like a bunch of people like to spout out theories and opinions, but who the hell are they, young kids, computer geeks, experts with no credentials? I have heard of the MIT team that took Vegas for millions. The rest of the panels of experts I'm not so sure. I have been counting cards for less than a year, and frequent the casino maybe once a month, so I am surely not an expert. But to an outside observer most on this subject sound as if they were trying to teach a class with every post. Now I'm not paying for any blackjack class, but if I did I'd pay it to the professional before I'd pay it to the beer league equivalent.