Noob Question

pinkophelia25

New Member
I have a question for everyone. This may have been covered elsewhere on this site but I haven't run across it. I'm still at the nickel playing stage of my blackjack "career" :grin: and was wondering about betting and/or playing cover. Is it necessary at this point? I have only played a couple times at real casinos and haven't felt any heat. I wanted to know if you guys feel that I should start laying cover now or is this something I should wait to worry about until I graduate to quarters? Thanks for the help :)
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
If you’re playing for nickels then you can’t afford to make cover plays. Just play as strong as you can and keep an eye out for any heat. In many cases you'll be surprised what you can get away with.

-Sonny-
 

EyeHeartHalves

Well-Known Member
As a Red Chipper, the answer is generally, 'no'.

You should be worried about your play. (i.e.: Was my count correct? Did I make the correct decisions? Did I bet the proper amount? Did I wong-out/wong-in at the right time? Is my bankroll big enough for my next trip? Am I playing against the best rules available? Is there any tables with less ploppies at it? Am I getting the most out of my comps that I can? And most of all--Am I a disciplined person while on the casino floor?)

However, I never say 'never'. A few years ago, I was a Red Chipper and I did get heat (I was shuffled up on by the Shift Manager.) on one occassion. The count went from a Halves TC of +1 on one hand to +3 on the next hand. Like an asshole I spread from one box of $5 to two boxes of $30 each. I was already up $250 from the previous shoe. If this was the same scale on a Green Chip level, there might have been a bigger chance of heat. Anyway, I got the idea that if I bet any amount, including $60, in one box, the incident would not have elevated to that level. Ever since then, I never bet more than one box. Oh, snap. I just said 'never'. Well, sometimes I bet two for certain purposes.

There are some comp whoring tricks you should know about. I'll explain. You could bet say 10 or $15 when you first hand a PP your comp card. If he keeps looking at your bet, play it out at a small penalty. If he's busy and walks away from the console before the dealer draws a card, go back down to $5. Buy-in at only $100 intervals so that the PP's see it when you're losing. You can also try "ratholing" for comps. (You're no where near the "tax evasion" level.) When wonging-out (TC<=-1), say you gotta go to the restroom, you're starving, show'em a lit up cell phone, go to non-smoking tables but then say you gotta smoke, etc. However, try to always ask'em to hold your spot even if you know you're not coming back. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO ALWAYS ACT FRIENDLY TO EVERYONE EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO AND ESPECIALLY TO THE DEALERS! For now, this is your act, "I'm the friendly, comp whoring loser." If you can work a better one, go for it but I wouldn't fret over it too much at Red Chipper.

If you are up a couple hundred dollars, remember that the next shoe has nothing to do with the previous shoes. Thus, get up and leave if you've been on the floor for more than an hour or two and you're consistently winning hundreds of dollars. It's done! Go to a different casino or just enjoy your win over some food and drink or nap or a walk, etc., etc. It's basically common sense but I'm going to put it out here anyway. Imagine you're ramping your bets from one nickle to two hands of a quarter each at a double-deck blackjack table and after about ten hours, you're up $1,000. Well, you're going to probably get kicked out of the casino if that occurred.

CONCLUSION: You do need to have some common sense cover but you definitely don't need to be paranoid or make penalizing cover plays.
 
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