Observations on my first three outings

aslan

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moo321 said:
My understanding is that all AC games have to be dealt from a shoe, so they never deal single deck, and would have to deal DD from a shoe.
At the Taj, for one, I saw a single deck game. They don't always have it, but when they do they deal by hand.
 

dacium

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How many shoes did you play to win that much and how many times do you think you bet at maximum spread?
 
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21forme

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aslan said:
I had heard that, but I didn't believe it. I had a friend who was a big time counter (he's dead now). I had heard that he was barred in AC because he had such a reputation in vegas and it followed him to AC. Are there ways they can refuse you, if not outright, in some other way? Or did the rules change since he was barred years ago?
In the early days of AC, they could bar you. Ken Uston filed a lawsuit against several casinos and the casino control board in NJ (and NV, too.) In NJ, he prevailed in that they can't bar you, though they can take those measures to make the game unprofitable. He lost the case in NV.
 

aslan

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Number of shoes

dacium said:
How many shoes did you play to win that much and how many times do you think you bet at maximum spread?
There is no way I can estimate that. Sorry. Over the course of 16 hours I had a pattern of playing several shoes, then taking a break and messing around with slots. Usually I would go to the slots when either there was a huge negative count or my mind was getting foggy and I needed a rest from the constant concentration and the even more taxing acting like I was not concentrating at all. I do estimate that in those sixteen hours I played blackjack about 13 hours. There is probably someway to estimate how many shoes one can play per hour. The truth is that the bulk of my winnings came is short spurts usually when the count was extremely high and I was betting the max, and in the case of playing two simultaneous hands, twice the max. It also helped that basic strategy was generally winning for me. Go figure! It wasn't until I received replies here that I realized how overall lucky I had been. Still, I do think I should generally make more than just a few dollars. If the house can win hundreds of my dollars with just a haklf percent advantage, I should be able to do likewise with a similarly small edge.
 

aslan

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Barring in AC

21forme said:
In the early days of AC, they could bar you. Ken Uston filed a lawsuit against several casinos and the casino control board in NJ (and NV, too.) In NJ, he prevailed in that they can't bar you, though they can take those measures to make the game unprofitable. He lost the case in NV.
That clears it up. It's nice to know they can't bar you. I guess when they start early shuffling on you, you can assume you've been made and need to visit a different casino. I guess it could also mean that someone else in the game has been identified as a counter. Do they ever say anything in AC to make it crystal clear that they suspect you of counting?
 
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