Planning a trip to Vegas to win big money at blackjack: Unless I'm missing something

[tedsuxs]

Next time can no one respond to a thread like this plzz

 

[aslan]

If you just want to gamble, go gamble in the stock market.

Better yet, find someone like yourself (Dashofpepper) who will be willing to flip coins with you. There, at least, you will get a 50/50 bet and no limits except what you bring to the table.

PS-- Of course, if you (Dashofpepper) know what you're doing, you can get an advantage in the stock market. But I'm assuming you don't want to wait a long time to see results. Let 'er rip, Skip!

 

[aslan]

Next time can no one respond to a thread like this plzz

You should avoid the Voodoo section, Tedsuxs. This was a mild one.

If someone was about to climb a tree to stick their hand in a squirrel's nest, I would warn them, too, because I had a neighbor who did just that. Those Rabies shots are really painful. :cry:

 

[gamblingghost]

You should avoid the Voodoo section, Tedsuxs. This was a mild one.

If someone was about to climb a tree to stick their hand in a squirrel's nest, I would warn them, too, because I had a neighbor who did just that. Those Rabies shots are really painful. :cry:

I've had a pet gray squirrel! They don't have rabies! His name was, Baby.

 

[aslan]

I've had a pet gray squirrel! They don't have rabies! His name was, Baby.

If you stick your hand in a squirrel nest and get bit and you can't then catch the offending squirrel, they give you the shots, at least, in those days they did. I doubt it's changed and I think it's the same for being bitten by any wild animal.

A friend of mine died this weekend. Talk about squirrels. When he drove his van to his parking place, they say the squirrels all ran down the trees to meet him. His son told me that he'll probably get the job of continuing the squirrel feeding his father was famous for.

My wife is a wildlife fan herself. While some people hate squirrels, we have the fattest, happiest squirrels in the county. The birds could be happier, however, since the squirrels have defeated every squirrel-proof bird feeder we have bought.

 

[TheMadHatter]

If you stick your hand in a squirrel nest and get bit and you can't then catch the offending squirrel, they give you the shots, at least, in those days they did. I doubt it's changed and I think it's the same for being bitten by any wild animal.

A friend of mine died this weekend. Talk about squirrels. When he drove his van to his parking place, they say the squirrels all ran down the trees to meet him. His son told me that he'll probably get the job of continuing the squirrel feeding his father was famous for.

My wife is a wildlife fan herself. While some people hate squirrels, we have the fattest, happiest squirrels in the county. The birds could be happier, however, since the squirrels have defeated every squirrel-proof bird feeder we have bought.

One of my well-fed squirrels bit me a couple of months back. It was my fault, as I started to stand up as he was taking the nut. He didn't even draw blood, but I called the County anyway, and they told me that squirrels were not considered carriers of rabies and I did not require rabies shots.

Two or three months later, I'm here, alive and well :laugh:

 

[aslan]

One of my well-fed squirrels bit me a couple of months back. It was my fault, as I started to stand up as he was taking the nut. He didn't even draw blood, but I called the County anyway, and they told me that squirrels were not considered carriers of rabies and I did not require rabies shots.

Two or three months later, I'm here, alive and well :laugh:

My story is from my childhood, so it's a bit dated. I think they considered any wild animal a potential carrier of rabies back then. I'm surprised they still don't. I wonder why a racoon or a dog can have rabies, but a squirrel can't?

I found this on the internet:

Squirrels are almost never found to be infected with the (Dead link: http://rabies.emedtv.com/rabies-virus/rabies-virus.html) _rabies virus_. Squirrels also have not been known to cause (Dead link: http://rabies.emedtv.com/rabies/rabies.html) _rabies_ in humans within the United States. Bites from a squirrel are not considered a risk for rabies unless the animal was sick or behaving in an unusual manner, and rabies is widespread in the area.

 

[gamblingghost]

One of my well-fed squirrels bit me a couple of months back. It was my fault, as I started to stand up as he was taking the nut. He didn't even draw blood, but I called the County anyway, and they told me that squirrels were not considered carriers of rabies and I did not require rabies shots.

Two or three months later, I'm here, alive and well :laugh:

Ah, a fellow 'been bitten by a squirrel' person. For those of you who don't know what it feels like to be bitten by a squirrel, just take a thin nail and jab it into your arm several times real fast. Now you know what it feels like to be
'tatooed' by a squirrel! NOT FUN!!:cry:

 

[TheMadHatter]

My story is from my childhood, so it's a bit dated. I think they considered any wild animal a potential carrier of rabies back then. I'm surprised they still don't. I wonder why a racoon or a dog can have rabies, but a squirrel can't?

I found this on the internet:

Squirrels are almost never found to be infected with the (Dead link: http://rabies.emedtv.com/rabies-virus/rabies-virus.html) _rabies virus_. Squirrels also have not been known to cause (Dead link: http://rabies.emedtv.com/rabies/rabies.html) _rabies_ in humans within the United States. Bites from a squirrel are not considered a risk for rabies unless the animal was sick or behaving in an unusual manner, and rabies is widespread in the area.

From my understanding, the rationale is that if a squirrel were to be attacked by one of those more common carriers that you mention, such as a dog or raccoon, the attack itself would most likely kill the squirrel, thus making the transmission of rabies a moot point. As a mammal, they *can* carry rabies, but their small size makes surviving the attack and living long enough to spread it very remote.

Either way, I know firsthand those sharp teeth can hurt! It even made a nice gouge in my thumb nail.

Thanks,
TMH

 

[TheMadHatter]

Ah, a fellow 'been bitten by a squirrel' person. For those of you who don't know what it feels like to be bitten by a squirrel, just take a thin nail and jab it into your arm several times real fast. Now you know what it feels like to be
'tatooed' by a squirrel! NOT FUN!!:cry:

Lol, nice to meet another victim! :grin:

 

[gamblingghost]

If you stick your hand in a squirrel nest and get bit and you can't then catch the offending squirrel, they give you the shots, at least, in those days they did. I doubt it's changed and I think it's the same for being bitten by any wild animal.

A friend of mine died this weekend. Talk about squirrels. When he drove his van to his parking place, they say the squirrels all ran down the trees to meet him. His son told me that he'll probably get the job of continuing the squirrel feeding his father was famous for.

My wife is a wildlife fan herself. While some people hate squirrels, we have the fattest, happiest squirrels in the county. The birds could be happier, however, since the squirrels have defeated every squirrel-proof bird feeder we have bought.

I re-habed my little 'Baby'. So he was very thankful and he knew I saved him.
Now, as far as hand feeding the ones outside in the wild. No way! I have been bitten by the little precious varmits and THAT is painful.
Squirrels are very territorial so if one gets in your house you will have to catch him and take him far away. But squirrel watching is great because they have little 'hands' that can handle and manipulate nuts and it really looks funny. They are also hilarious acrobats! Now, if they just wouldn't go WILD after a year or two they would be GREAT pets. And if they weren't so damn destructive and chew on everything in sight. If you don't mind having your house destroyed they are cool for the first year or two.

 

[Coach R]

Hey folks!

I read an article recently that said that Caesar's Palace had raised their table maximum to $50,000 - with the minimum being $15. I don't know anything about card counting - my previous casino trips have all been roulette, where I've made a few thousand dollars playing a losing progression on black/red.

I've got a blackjack program for my Droid, and that's the limit of my blackjack experience, so don't flay me too badly when I boast that I've raked in tremendous amounts of money at it. Based on that experience, I've been contemplating a trip to Vegas to go to Caesar's Palace with the following conditions:

I take $64,000 with me, so that I can play a losing progression from $25 to $50,000. IE, I start betting at $25. Every hand I lose, I double my bet (mostly) such that I'm betting $25, $50, $100, $200, $500, $1000, $2000, $5000, $10,000, $20,000, $50,000. Every hand I win, I reset my bet back to $25.

It seems incredibly unlikely to me that I would lose 11 hands of blackjack in a row.

So a few questions.

1. What am I missing?

2. Is this realistic?

3. Can anyone verify that the table stakes *are* indeed $15-50,000? I haven't done this before because table stakes are always set to nuke a losing progression after 4-6 rounds.

4. Would this get me in trouble in a casino?

Progression is progression. Would you risk $89,000 assuming you won't lose 11 hands in a row? That's the total you know. If you count cards you know not to use that system. Fact is if you only have $64,000, you won't have enough to cover the 11th bet, you would need about $89,000. I count and know all B.S. moves and bets, I have lost 11 in a row before. If you're sold on progession, start at a $10 table and move to a higher limit when you max out that limit. I you're not an A.P. you're going to lose in the long run anyway.

 

[blackjacktilt]

A troll's entertainment

Progression is progression. Would you risk $89,000 assuming you won't lose 11 hands in a row? That's the total you know. If you count cards you know not to use that system. Fact is if you only have $64,000, you won't have enough to cover the 11th bet, you would need about $89,000. I count and know all B.S. moves and bets, I have lost 11 in a row before. If you're sold on progession, start at a $10 table and move to a higher limit when you max out that limit. I you're not an A.P. you're going to lose in the long run anyway.

Please stop it, although it is quite comical going from a guy talking nonsense to a bunch of others talking about getting tattooed by a squirrel - people like this should get one response..... TAKE IT DOWN THE ROAD FELLA!!!

 

[21gunsalute]

Progression is progression. Would you risk $89,000 assuming you won't lose 11 hands in a row? That's the total you know. If you count cards you know not to use that system. Fact is if you only have $64,000, you won't have enough to cover the 11th bet, you would need about $89,000. I count and know all B.S. moves and bets, I have lost 11 in a row before. If you're sold on progession, start at a $10 table and move to a higher limit when you max out that limit. I you're not an A.P. you're going to lose in the long run anyway.

It's rare to have a night go by that I don't lose 11 in a row or thereabouts.

 

[nighthawk718]

Martingale system won't work for blackjack.

 

[aslan]

Martingale system won't work for blackjack.

...or for any game with a negative expectation.

 

[gamblingghost]

...or for any game with a negative expectation.

Mr. Aslan, would a martingale also be bad for even a slight pos. expectation game?

 

[MangoJ]

would a martingale also be bad for even a slight pos. expectation game?

It is desastreous for every game of chance. The reason is overbetting.
In martingale you do a lot of overbetting, since you increase your bets when your bankroll drops, and decrease your bets when your bankroll rises.

In a positive EV game you have to increase your bets when your bankroll grows, and decrease your bets when your bankroll shrinks. You would want to bet a constant fraction of your bankroll - in a simplest win/loss game it is the Kelly fraction.

In a negative EV game it doesn't matter how you bet, you will bust in the long run almost surely. You are doomed from the beginning. The only way to win a negative EV game is not to play.

 

[Brock Windsor]

Hey folks!

I read an article recently that said that Caesar's Palace had raised their table maximum to $50,000 - with the minimum being $15. I don't know anything about card counting - my previous casino trips have all been roulette, where I've made a few thousand dollars playing a losing progression on black/red.

I've got a blackjack program for my Droid, and that's the limit of my blackjack experience, so don't flay me too badly when I boast that I've raked in tremendous amounts of money at it. Based on that experience, I've been contemplating a trip to Vegas to go to Caesar's Palace with the following conditions:

I take $64,000 with me, so that I can play a losing progression from $25 to $50,000. IE, I start betting at $25. Every hand I lose, I double my bet (mostly) such that I'm betting $25, $50, $100, $200, $500, $1000, $2000, $5000, $10,000, $20,000, $50,000. Every hand I win, I reset my bet back to $25.

It seems incredibly unlikely to me that I would lose 11 hands of blackjack in a row.

So a few questions.

1. What am I missing?

2. Is this realistic?

3. Can anyone verify that the table stakes *are* indeed $15-50,000? I haven't done this before because table stakes are always set to nuke a losing progression after 4-6 rounds.

4. Would this get me in trouble in a casino?

"You don't know when to quit, do ya Griswold?... Here's an idea: Why don't you give me half the money your were gonna to bet, then we'll go out back, I'll kick you in the nuts, and we'll call it a day! "
Marty the dealer - Vegas Vacation

-BW

 

[aslan]

Mr. Aslan, would a martingale also be bad for even a slight pos. expectation game?

The martingale does not enhance your positive expectation. It does cause you to over-bet your hand, which we all know is a recipe for disaster. There is a reason that all authorities on card counting recommend betting in relation to one's advantage. Imagine what your RoR will look like employing a martingale.