Pressure to tip

[EasyRhino]

I try to hit the average 10-15% expected.

Note for the foreign contingent, the traditional restaurant tip is more like 15-20%. There appears to have been tip inflation over the last several years, so my usual 15% is often derided as cheap. Buffet tips are iffier to me though, since there's typically less waitperson workload.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

I got some nasty tip heat last time in Reno. Had a really good session and tipped a pink to the dealer. She tells me "You should be embarrassed to leave that tip. That's a tip for a cocktail waitress."'

Oh was I pissed, although I didn't reveal it. I should have told her "At least the cocktail waitress is attractive, and gives me something useful." But that incident affected my attitude about even the niggardly tipping I do.

 

[Cardcounter]

Tipping!

The last person said that they tipped pink how much is a pink chip worth? I tend to tip the dealers that are friendly and who thank me for making a bet for them even if I just bet $1 for them, those $1 tips add up at the end of the day and if I was your dealer I would say thank you very much for the bet or something along those lines when I get a bet regardless of the amount of the tip. As a dealer if I totally get stiffed the player never makes bets for me I get a little annoyed if they make bets for me and I still walk away with nothing because they lose all the hands that are bet for me even though I walked with nothing I feel as at least the player tried and I don't feel as if I was stiffed!
As a player tipping in the pressence of a pit boss is a little bit more benefecial than tipping when he is not looking. Pit bosses are usually former dealers and they usually like to see that a player is not a total stiff. I like to break down my $5 chips into $1 chips so I can tip on 5 times as many hands as if I just bet $5 on one hand! If you have other players at the table and they are not tipping encouraging them to tip is not a bad thing and can be good cover for you. Say something like don't forget to tip your dealers to the other players can make you more liked by the dealer.

 

[Sonny]

She tells me "You should be embarrassed to leave that tip. That's a tip for a cocktail waitress."'

You should have said "Oh, I'm sorry, you're right. I'll save this for her then" and taken her tip back. Or, at the very least, said "I know what your hourly rate is. You should be embarrassed not to take that $2.50."

[EDIT: I just thought of another one: "You can either get it from me or from the welfare office. At least I don't make you wait in line."]

-Sonny-

 

[Playloud]

You should have said "Oh, I'm sorry, you're right. I'll save this for her then" and taken her tip back...

:laugh: Absolutely!

 

[creeping panther]

Tip whoring

is something I will not take lightly. I had one dealer put on probation for doing just that.

If you are winning and you like the dealer, and there is something in it for you then place a bet for the dealer once in a while.

I will tip but it has to always be a positive, in the end, for my game.

You owe no one a tip in a game that you are expected to lose money at!!!!

This is all about expected ev, remember that.

Be a BJ Warrior not a pussy!

It also helps to have a "Demeanor" at the table that can intimidate other players and the dealer.

Creeping Panther

 

[davidpom]

Note for the foreign contingent, the traditional restaurant tip is more like 15-20%. There appears to have been tip inflation over the last several years, so my usual 15% is often derided as cheap. Buffet tips are iffier to me though, since there's typically less waitperson workload.

Thanks for the update - will note that tip inflation for future visits to the US.

 

[Ferretnparrot]

While we are talking about tips i just wanna say that the 15-20% thing is totally ludicrous, yeah it works sometimes when you sometimes have the average amount of food ordered, but if you order 100 in food for two peopel you dont owe the guy 20 bucks.

I deliver chinese food, and make ok money but if somebody orders 100 bucks i dont expect or get 20 bucks for a tip, or if somebody orders 10 dollars a 1 to 2 dollars tip often isnt enough to compensate for burning half a gallon of gas yet alone the cost of owning your car and if you want extra money in your pocket for the effort its just not happeneing. The 20% rule is garbage and i think tips should be made soely on what has been done.

For a delivery driver 1.00 per mile distance +1.00 is a good method. As a cheap car cost 34cents per mile to operate and the deliver driver does have to go both ways, so it cost him 68 cents per mile total, adding one dollar for his time, this in combination with the extra 32 cents per mile will compensate for more time driving and ensure that the driver makes decent hourly wage.

For waitors i use 20-30$/hour divided by the number of tables they are working multiplied by the fraction of an hour i sat and demanded there attention.

In casinos i tip someimes but i limit myself to 3-4$ per hour tips and put them in as bets at really high counts to make an extra effort at making the dealers more money. If everybody did that, they would make money

 

[ChefJJ]

While we are talking about tips i just wanna say that the 15-20% thing is totally ludicrous, yeah it works sometimes when you sometimes have the average amount of food ordered, but if you order 100 in food for two peopel you dont owe the guy 20 bucks.

At a restaurant, yes...for a delivery, probably not.

 

[moo321]

While we are talking about tips i just wanna say that the 15-20% thing is totally ludicrous, yeah it works sometimes when you sometimes have the average amount of food ordered, but if you order 100 in food for two peopel you dont owe the guy 20 bucks.

I deliver chinese food, and make ok money but if somebody orders 100 bucks i dont expect or get 20 bucks for a tip, or if somebody orders 10 dollars a 1 to 2 dollars tip often isnt enough to compensate for burning half a gallon of gas yet alone the cost of owning your car and if you want extra money in your pocket for the effort its just not happeneing. The 20% rule is garbage and i think tips should be made soely on what has been done.

For a delivery driver 1.00 per mile distance +1.00 is a good method. As a cheap car cost 34cents per mile to operate and the deliver driver does have to go both ways, so it cost him 68 cents per mile total, adding one dollar for his time, this in combination with the extra 32 cents per mile will compensate for more time driving and ensure that the driver makes decent hourly wage.

For waitors i use 20-30$/hour divided by the number of tables they are working multiplied by the fraction of an hour i sat and demanded there attention.

In casinos i tip someimes but i limit myself to 3-4$ per hour tips and put them in as bets at really high counts to make an extra effort at making the dealers more money. If everybody did that, they would make money

Do you get minimum wage for delivering, on top of tips? And do you write off mileage and depreciation?

 

[davidpom]

Do you get minimum wage for delivering, on top of tips? And do you write off mileage and depreciation?

Heck, if not, it doesn't sound like a job worth having... it would become a loss-making employment situation.

 

[TheProdigy]

I often fall to the pressure to tip just because it becomes unbearable sometimes if I don't tip. They just get so nasty sometimes. As long as they are happy with a little something and don't take it for granted.

If I get a dealer that singles me out for not tipping, here's what I do. 1) Go on an insane blackjack streak 2) make sure I'm betting amounts that pay out 50 cent chips 3) Let the 50 cent chips build up as high as possible in one single stack 4) Never combine the 50 cent chips to make a bet 5) smile at the dealer as you take the enormous stack of 50 cent chips to the cage 6) make sure to exaggerate how hard it is to grab that big stack of chips!

 

[Ferretnparrot]

I get 7/hr so pretty much, all in all i make profit after expenses 12-30/hour for the three hours i am there, but thats only because my delivery rout is very local, these pizza franchise guys making 3/hr have got to be broke or going broke and not know it. Also as a perk i get free dinner EVERYday for working three hours chilling in my car, and in my spare time i do nothing, althought i spent about 5 months of my spare time at the restaraunt learning to count cards to make good use of it and i think i have. most of the time i do nothing, its pretty awsome.

i deduct everything relvant to my car and depreciation is the biggest one it cost more than gas and maintanence combined

The other day i handed in three greens to get some red chips, and the guy gave me five whites as part of it without me evn asking, i put them in for him though. I thought that was kinda a dick move on his part

 

[shadroch]

If a car cost 34 cents a mile to operate,thats what it cost. Not 68 cents.You are going one mile each way,each mile cost 34 cents.

How many jobs do you have? Last week you worked in a 7-11,yesterday you worked building houses,today you deliver chinise food?

 

[ihate17]

In living color

If a car cost 34 cents a mile to operate,thats what it cost. Not 68 cents.You are going one mile each way,each mile cost 34 cents.

How many jobs do you have? Last week you worked in a 7-11,yesterday you worked building houses,today you deliver chinise food?

He is a throw back to the Wayan brothers TV show In Living Color and their Jamaican skit, he gots 5 jobs man!
Or he has to get a new one everyday, not sure which.

ihate17

 

[InPlay]

If a car cost 34 cents a mile to operate,thats what it cost. Not 68 cents.You are going one mile each way,each mile cost 34 cents.

How many jobs do you have? Last week you worked in a 7-11,yesterday you worked building houses,today you deliver chinise food?

http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/article/0,,id=178004,00.html (Archive copy)


Standard Mileage Rate 2007

For 2007, the standard mileage rate for the cost of operating your car for business use is 48.5 cents per mile.

 

[shadroch]

He said it cost 34 cents a mile to operate,but the driver had to go both ways,so its 68 cents per mile. Thats what I'm responding to.

 

[InPlay]

While we are talking about tips i just wanna say that the 15-20% thing is totally ludicrous, yeah it works sometimes when you sometimes have the average amount of food ordered, but if you order 100 in food for two peopel you dont owe the guy 20 bucks.

I deliver chinese food, and make ok money but if somebody orders 100 bucks i dont expect or get 20 bucks for a tip, or if somebody orders 10 dollars a 1 to 2 dollars tip often isnt enough to compensate for burning half a gallon of gas yet alone the cost of owning your car and if you want extra money in your pocket for the effort its just not happeneing. The 20% rule is garbage and i think tips should be made soely on what has been done.

For a delivery driver 1.00 per mile distance +1.00 is a good method. As a cheap car cost 34cents per mile to operate and the deliver driver does have to go both ways, so it cost him 68 cents per mile total, adding one dollar for his time, this in combination with the extra 32 cents per mile will compensate for more time driving and ensure that the driver makes decent hourly wage.

For waitors i use 20-30$/hour divided by the number of tables they are working multiplied by the fraction of an hour i sat and demanded there attention.

In casinos i tip someimes but i limit myself to 3-4$ per hour tips and put them in as bets at really high counts to make an extra effort at making the dealers more money. If everybody did that, they would make money

Another one caught telling a story. Doesn't even know the standard deduction. So how could we believe anything he spouts.

http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/article/0,,id=178004,00.html (Archive copy)

Standard Mileage Rate 2007

For 2007, the standard mileage rate for the cost of operating your car for business use is 48.5 cents per mile.

 

[Ferretnparrot]

Yo i dont work at a gd damn 7-11!! where the hell did that come from?
I work on houses and i deliver chinese food in my spare time for a few hours a week

all i was saying before is that it cost 34 cents per mile to operate the car so if i have to go one mile a out and one mile back it cost me 68 cents so for every mile distance you should tip at least 1 dollar. I ecplain it that way because for some reason most people in my experience always seem to forget that the driver has to go both ways. if your one mile away 1 dollar + 1extra is a very simple concept.

You guys are so picky

when i figured out what it cost per mile, i took my avg mpg and figured out how much gas i would burn after 100k miles, what my car would be worth after 100k miles and deducted it from the purchase price leaving me with the depreciation cost, added both of those to all of the maintanence i would do over the 100k miles and divided it all by 100,000 thats how i got 34 cents thats waht it is for my car, other cars may be more expensive and im sure the average is much higher as i aimed for the most economical car i could get my hands on.

Im well aware that you can deduct 45 cents per mile, but did you ever stop to think that there might be reasons i choose not to?

 

[moo321]

Yo i dont work at a gd damn 7-11!! where the hell did that come from?
I work on houses and i deliver chinese food in my spare time for a few hours a week

all i was saying before is that it cost 34 cents per mile to operate the car so if i have to go one mile a out and one mile back it cost me 68 cents so for every mile distance you should tip at least 1 dollar. I ecplain it that way because for some reason most people in my experience always seem to forget that the driver has to go both ways. if your one mile away 1 dollar + 1extra is a very simple concept.

You guys are so picky

when i figured out what it cost per mile, i took my avg mpg and figured out how much gas i would burn after 100k miles, what my car would be worth after 100k miles and deducted it from the purchase price leaving me with the depreciation cost, added both of those to all of the maintanence i would do over the 100k miles and divided it all by 100,000 thats how i got 34 cents thats waht it is for my car, other cars may be more expensive and im sure the average is much higher as i aimed for the most economical car i could get my hands on.

Im well aware that you can deduct 45 cents per mile, but did you ever stop to think that there might be reasons i choose not to?

There's no damn reason not to deduct mileage. If you're getting paid under the table, and not reporting tips, you're just waiting to get nailed for income tax evasion. If you are getting paid legally, and you're not reporting tips, you could still offset your wages with a mileage deduction.