I would like to see a thread discussing positive progression systems as a stand alone strategy,i.e. no counting. Also progressive betting systems synthesized with counting strategy. It seems to me that most counting systems correlate with negative progression and counter to positive progression systems.
Progressive Betting Systems
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As applied to blackjack, what strategy would you use to play the hands?Backbayal said:I would like to see a thread discussing positive progression systems as a stand alone strategy,i.e. no counting. Also progressive betting systems synthesized with counting strategy. It seems to me that most counting systems correlate with negative progression and counter to positive progression systems.
Over the past few years I have produced thousands of schedules based on starting with a low bet and proceeding to higher bets when wins justify. The system is based on discrete series, ie if first bet is a loss, start a new series. On future losses, reduce to the first lower level after previous wins have covered the loss. When driven back to the starting level begin a new series. Most series will be one hand only, but win at a higher level can overcome the deficit. Currently a win at a higher level is followed by one or two progressively lower bets,then another bet significantly higher than the previous one. Higher bet losses require more levels of "git back". In a session where your ahead, you may consider increasing the starting level bet. Sometimes your smallest bet of a triad may be played as advance on a win, but don't "git back" until two consecutive losses. Sometimes on double win or BJ, you may skip the next higher level bet. It's hard to describe in words, but my newest iteration (with which I think is a winner) I am not ready to make public at present.
xengrifter
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Yes, but what strategy will you use to play the hands? First answer that.
I'll just save you a lot of time and grief. It isn't!Backbayal said:....(with which I think is a winner)...
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Just let him explain how he plays his hands.
Previously I played strict basic strategy. Of late I will double soft 19 or 20 when dealer has 4,5,6. My strategy seems to extra reward double down wins; also it tends to stupidify dealers and pit-bosses. I'm not trying to attract attention, but to give the impression that I play crazy. Are there other variations from basic strategy that have positive expectation?
Neither BS nor any variations of it have positive expectation. You should describe exactly what you are doing to the pit bosses, they will welcome you with open arms and happily take your money.Backbayal said:Previously I played strict basic strategy. Of late I will double soft 19 or 20 when dealer has 4,5,6. My strategy seems to extra reward double down wins; also it tends to stupidify dealers and pit-bosses. I'm not trying to attract attention, but to give the impression that I play crazy. Are there other variations from basic strategy that have positive expectation?
The problem here is that you do not know when to predict (voodoo) when a streak starts or ends period. Only after the fact which will not win you any extra money.Backbayal said:You wait for the occasional winning streak,
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I don't think you know what "expectation" means. Until the cards are dealt, unless you have knowledge of the remaining cards (are counting), each hand has exactly the same negative expectation.Backbayal said:Many individual hands have a positive expectation. Sometimes you win one! The heart of my strategy is the defense. It is a passive system. You wait for the occasional winning streak, just like a card-counter waits for a positive count.
They welcome your play because it's a nonsensical, losing system, just like all progressive betting systems.
BoSox: "You do not know when to predict (voodoo) when a streak starts or ends period."
It is a passive system; you wait for it! If my first bet of a new series is a loss, I am no worse off than if I were playing flat table minimum. If my last bet of series is a loss, it is covered by preceding wins. "GitBack Bets" are where the Magic (Voodoo) is.
It is a passive system; you wait for it! If my first bet of a new series is a loss, I am no worse off than if I were playing flat table minimum. If my last bet of series is a loss, it is covered by preceding wins. "GitBack Bets" are where the Magic (Voodoo) is.
Don't sidestep post #2 and repeated again in post #4 of the thread.Backbayal said:I seem to be getting mostly flak from from my initial post on this thread, but no one is addressing my original questions. I am seeking answers, not ridicule.
John Doe re expectation.
If the first hand from a shoe, you can calculate the probability (win/loss) of that hand with complete accuracy. Many hands have a positive expectation even with skewed distribution of the deck. All this is beside the point; it is not necessary to know the next hand's expectation to determine your bet size.
If the first hand from a shoe, you can calculate the probability (win/loss) of that hand with complete accuracy. Many hands have a positive expectation even with skewed distribution of the deck. All this is beside the point; it is not necessary to know the next hand's expectation to determine your bet size.
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I answered Post#2 & #4 as far as I want to in Post#3. This is a work in progress and I am seeking ways to improve it. If successful I will still not publish the particulars. I intend to sell it to the casinos and then hire out as a consultant to teach them how to prevent its use.
I answered Post#2 & #4 as far as I want to in Post#3. This is a work in progress and I am seeking ways to improve it. If successful I will still not publish the particulars. I intend to sell it to the casinos and then hire out as a consultant to teach them how to prevent its use.