Question about "hot" dealers
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gronbog
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Streaks both for and against the dealer are a natural part of random processes. They happen, but you can't predict when they will happen or how long they will last. You just happened to experience one that went against you. The streak could continue or end at any time whether you switch tables or not. However, if switching tables makes you feel better then go for it.Clint Rench said:
If by the book, you mean Basic Strategy then you can rest assured that it is correct and has been independently verified over and over again by combinatorial software and simulations over the past 5 decades or so. You need to realize that, even playing perfect Basic Strategy, you will still lose in the long run. If you want to turn the tables, as a rookie, learn the HiLo counting system and practice using software (CV Blackjack) until you can play flawlessly for hours before you bet another dollar in the casino.Clint Rench said:
If you're not playing a winning game (and right now you aren't), then you want to play as slowly as possible. You can simply ask the dealer to slow down. You can slow the game down yourself by taking as much time as you like to make your decisions. If all else fails, switch tables.Clint Rench said:
Useyourodds
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I agree with Gronbog (save the earlier comment.) Streaks for and against the dealer are part of the random process but you will add to that length mixing in your typical "busts." The dealer and the players start with two cards each. With that it goes in as a 50-50 chance of who has the best card total. Obviously, if all cards are up your decision is mostly made. Nope one dealer card is down - there's the psychology "gain" of the game. So assume 10 in the hole? I already covered that off-based assumption in a previous post. For fun, lets say you have been dealt a "hard 12." Of the thirteen cards in a suit, four will bust you and four will not help you those being an ace, two three or four. So there are a total of eight out of thirteen; four where you give your bet to the house through a bust, and four that will get you to 13, 14, 15, or 16. If you get a "little" card, hit again? Restated, only five of thirteen will help and that goes for a hard twelve all the way to a hard 16. Consider the 50-50 going in though you are better off forcing the house rules on the dealer making your odds at least as good as counting. Flip a coin then. Yes there is a 50-50 chance of heads every time, however, three or four heads in a row and I'm betting tails and running that bet up until it happens. This isn't rocket science, it's numbers. All I'm saying here is understand and take advantage of them. It works like no other.
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gronbog
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Useyourodds, are you advocating use of the "never bust" strategy. i.e. stand on all stiffs? I sure hope not. See this link:
http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/basics/#toc-BadStrategies
"This "never bust" strategy results in a house edge of 3.91%." which compares very badly to the roughly 0.3% to 0.7% you get with basic strategy (depending on the rules).
Clint, don't pay any attention to this nonsense. If you're not counting, stick to basic strategy. My first clue that Useyourodds is spouting nonsense was when he said in his first post
http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/basics/#toc-BadStrategies
"This "never bust" strategy results in a house edge of 3.91%." which compares very badly to the roughly 0.3% to 0.7% you get with basic strategy (depending on the rules).
Clint, don't pay any attention to this nonsense. If you're not counting, stick to basic strategy. My first clue that Useyourodds is spouting nonsense was when he said in his first post
Anyone who tells you that they always win is lying.Useyourodds said:
bejammin075
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The forum isn't what it used to be.
bejammin075
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Let the accretion begin! I was glad and surprised my old login worked.LVBear584 said:
sagefr0g
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accretion, now there's an interesting phenomenon. all sorts of stuff does that, in negative and positive ways, dust building up in a home, snow in the mountains that later feeds rivers, traffic on the interstate, pennies in a cookie jar, solar systems, ..., bank rolls maybe?bejammin075 said:
but whatever, far as science goes, i haven't found much on the phenomenon, save for astrophysics and geology. be kind of neat if there was a accretion phenomenon related to advantage play.
Spyros Acebos
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Unfortunately, I suspect that only real AP accretion is one that runs upslope as the casinos experience the accretion to their bottom line of sucker's (oops, ploppies') gambling losses at 6:5, H17, D10, NDAS, NRA, NS, CSM, 8D, non-hole card games.
Or are the ploppies excreting losses?
Or are the ploppies excreting losses?
Useyourodds
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Okay okay. Using that logic, turn the rules around. The player must hit 16 and stand on 17 then the player gets an edge of 3.91%. Always win means a bet system as well. Increase your bet until you win than drop back to your initial bet. Win just one hand in three and you walk away with THEIR money. You will win more hands than you lose if you do not play "22" and that is a fact. I'll bow out of this and let the guessers, counters, and strategists have their forum. Nevertheless, good luck to all of you.gronbog said:
Spyros Acebos
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Another vote for a dislike option. Heck, we already have the ability to click on "Like" a post.
bejammin075
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But you have to decide your turn before the dealer. If you bust first, you lose you bet even if the dealer busts after you. That's the essence of the house advantage.Useyourodds said:
London Colin
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I think it often proves counterproductive. The very act of entering into a dialogue/argument can lend apparent credibility, whereas a response of universal, stony silence speaks volumes.gronbog said:
Joe Mama
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This would be true if you turned all the rules around, not just this one specific rule. If dealer has to play their hand first under your scenario, the edge would be even higher for the player if player were still paid 3:2 BJ. Since player plays first, if both the dealer and the player bust, the dealer wins.Useyourodds said: