Felix Rue-de-Guerre
Well-Known Member
that thread where people were joking about the black chips at the Western?
Well guess what!
-Felix
Well guess what!
-Felix
Remember...
- Thread starter Felix Rue-de-Guerre
- Start date
learning to count
Well-Known Member
Okay I'll bite...what happened???????????!!!!!!
Sonny
Well-Known Member
> Remember that thread where people were
> joking about the black chips at the Western?
>
> Well guess what!
>
> -Felix
Yeah, now try to cash them in! The cage calls the pit for even a single green chip. They'll probably call their stockholders for a black one!
I have about 5-10 greenies from them laying around my house right now. I always pocket a few before I color up (to keep my rating in good standing, and to keep those free dinners coming!). The problem is, I never get a chance to come back on another shift to cash out the extra ones. It doesn't really count as EV if your winnings aren't in useable currency. The more I play, the more I win - the more I win, the more I hide - the more I hide, the less I earn.
I'll probably end up cashing them in at another casino (Plaza, LV Club, the Spike). Any advice/warnings about doing this?
-Sonny-
> joking about the black chips at the Western?
>
> Well guess what!
>
> -Felix
Yeah, now try to cash them in! The cage calls the pit for even a single green chip. They'll probably call their stockholders for a black one!
I have about 5-10 greenies from them laying around my house right now. I always pocket a few before I color up (to keep my rating in good standing, and to keep those free dinners coming!). The problem is, I never get a chance to come back on another shift to cash out the extra ones. It doesn't really count as EV if your winnings aren't in useable currency. The more I play, the more I win - the more I win, the more I hide - the more I hide, the less I earn.
I'll probably end up cashing them in at another casino (Plaza, LV Club, the Spike). Any advice/warnings about doing this?
-Sonny-
Abraham de Moivre
Well-Known Member
Ewwwww .....
Carrying around green chips from the Western could be considered transporting hazardous materials.
Just take them to the cage and cash em. Let them have a hissy and make their phone calls.
Carrying around green chips from the Western could be considered transporting hazardous materials.
Just take them to the cage and cash em. Let them have a hissy and make their phone calls.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
Cashing in your ratholes
Yes I do the same thing, brought home as many as $1200 in green and black. That's when I bring my girlfriend, have her play roulette for a few minutes then go cash my stack in.
Sometimes when I was having a really good night I'd be ratholing like a panicked rat, trying to show a loss when I am up 50+ units. But then I read something about it on Snyder's site, just rathole your EV. They look for long, long term profit, not an occasional great night. Plus if I try to show too much of a loss they might see that my play does not reflect that and that could set off an alarm too.
Yes I do the same thing, brought home as many as $1200 in green and black. That's when I bring my girlfriend, have her play roulette for a few minutes then go cash my stack in.
Sometimes when I was having a really good night I'd be ratholing like a panicked rat, trying to show a loss when I am up 50+ units. But then I read something about it on Snyder's site, just rathole your EV. They look for long, long term profit, not an occasional great night. Plus if I try to show too much of a loss they might see that my play does not reflect that and that could set off an alarm too.
Felix Rue-de-Guerre
Well-Known Member
I Just...
thought I would simply mention that they now exist.
Some were concerned about what would happen to the place once Barrick took them over. If they would change things, or attempt to make the place a bit nicer at some cost. This may be a sign of something that.
Got RO7 with 2 to 3 others, so that is still good.
-Felix
thought I would simply mention that they now exist.
Some were concerned about what would happen to the place once Barrick took them over. If they would change things, or attempt to make the place a bit nicer at some cost. This may be a sign of something that.
Got RO7 with 2 to 3 others, so that is still good.
-Felix
Felix Rue-de-Guerre
Well-Known Member
Man,
That's scarry, I hope the game at least stays the same.
There was a really, really old drunk guy at my table there. He had a tremendous stack of those new gold $1 tokens piled up in front of him. He asked the dealer for "some quarters" and started to tool around in the pile with his arthritic hands. I thought: "Wow... a Western high roller colorin' up to green". But he didn't mean it in the vernacular. He pulled out a single 1 dollar token and wanted 4 quarters(25 cent pieces) so he could tip the dealer 25 cents. What an awesome place!
-Felix
That's scarry, I hope the game at least stays the same.
There was a really, really old drunk guy at my table there. He had a tremendous stack of those new gold $1 tokens piled up in front of him. He asked the dealer for "some quarters" and started to tool around in the pile with his arthritic hands. I thought: "Wow... a Western high roller colorin' up to green". But he didn't mean it in the vernacular. He pulled out a single 1 dollar token and wanted 4 quarters(25 cent pieces) so he could tip the dealer 25 cents. What an awesome place!
-Felix
As far as changing the game...
I talked to a dealer who works at the Plaza and she told me in her severly broken English that Barrick made some changes in the way blackjack is dealt there. For double-deck and shoe, evidently the rule before was always to place the cut card right in the center of the decks.
Now, she says they've installed a notched discard rack where the cut card is insterted about 20 cards from the bottom. Shoe games are now dealt until a deck and half is left. She said she has already run out of cards a few times since players can now split any card except Aces as many times as they like.
Get this, she also said that they brought out new layouts that said dealer stands on all 17's. But everyone began to complain about how this is bad for the house so they haven't put them on yet and she thinks they sent them back to get redone as they still have the old layouts.
So, I would guess that Barrick is not going to change the games for the worse at the Western. Heck, they can't be any chintzier than Jackie G. That fellow wrote the book on cheap.
I talked to a dealer who works at the Plaza and she told me in her severly broken English that Barrick made some changes in the way blackjack is dealt there. For double-deck and shoe, evidently the rule before was always to place the cut card right in the center of the decks.
Now, she says they've installed a notched discard rack where the cut card is insterted about 20 cards from the bottom. Shoe games are now dealt until a deck and half is left. She said she has already run out of cards a few times since players can now split any card except Aces as many times as they like.
Get this, she also said that they brought out new layouts that said dealer stands on all 17's. But everyone began to complain about how this is bad for the house so they haven't put them on yet and she thinks they sent them back to get redone as they still have the old layouts.
So, I would guess that Barrick is not going to change the games for the worse at the Western. Heck, they can't be any chintzier than Jackie G. That fellow wrote the book on cheap.
Rob McGarvey
Well-Known Member
Skim
In the past I used to just cash my profits off, not the entire buy in, but that was when I was playing every weekend when I had the fire for the felt. I had a 10K roll and 5K was in chips. I got a bit of a scare when they changed their chips because someone had found a way to forge them. I got rid of them okay fine, but back then getting stuck with 5K worth of souvenir black n purple chips would have been a heart breaker.
In the past I used to just cash my profits off, not the entire buy in, but that was when I was playing every weekend when I had the fire for the felt. I had a 10K roll and 5K was in chips. I got a bit of a scare when they changed their chips because someone had found a way to forge them. I got rid of them okay fine, but back then getting stuck with 5K worth of souvenir black n purple chips would have been a heart breaker.
Rob McGarvey
Well-Known Member
Now You Know
how Barfarkel got his nick name Barfy. ;>
how Barfarkel got his nick name Barfy. ;>
Sonny
Well-Known Member
Actually, surprisingly good food
It is actually a lot better than one would expect. They have a few deli sandwiches and burgers, or you can get a full meal (usually fried chicken or something like that with potatoes, corn, pie). It's not bad for cafeteria-style food. It's also a good place to run into dealers on their breaks.
Of course, it's not really the kind of place you would want to be around dinner time, or ANYTIME after dusk. That's another reason I have trouble cashing their chips on different shifts. Maybe I'll have to park the car out front and do a late night drive-by cashout. It looks way too suspicious to always use chips from my pocket instead of buying in.
-Sonny-
It is actually a lot better than one would expect. They have a few deli sandwiches and burgers, or you can get a full meal (usually fried chicken or something like that with potatoes, corn, pie). It's not bad for cafeteria-style food. It's also a good place to run into dealers on their breaks.
Of course, it's not really the kind of place you would want to be around dinner time, or ANYTIME after dusk. That's another reason I have trouble cashing their chips on different shifts. Maybe I'll have to park the car out front and do a late night drive-by cashout. It looks way too suspicious to always use chips from my pocket instead of buying in.
-Sonny-
Sonny
Well-Known Member
Hazardous materials
> Carrying around green chips from the Western could be considered
> transporting hazardous materials.
The old pea-soup green quarter chips are a thing of the past. Barrick has bought brand new chips for all of their properties (Western and LVC at least. I haven't checked the Plaza, although with the new penetration notches I might take a look). The new chips are completely redesigned with that cheesy "retro" look that Barrick is so fond of. Even the cards are completely new (and reportedly of terrible quality, according to several dealers). I'm a little disappointed since one of my excuses for jumping my bets all the time was that the chips were stuck together!
Don't worry, the filthy brown quarters at the El Cotex are still being used (and are still VERY contageous).
-Sonny-
> Carrying around green chips from the Western could be considered
> transporting hazardous materials.
The old pea-soup green quarter chips are a thing of the past. Barrick has bought brand new chips for all of their properties (Western and LVC at least. I haven't checked the Plaza, although with the new penetration notches I might take a look). The new chips are completely redesigned with that cheesy "retro" look that Barrick is so fond of. Even the cards are completely new (and reportedly of terrible quality, according to several dealers). I'm a little disappointed since one of my excuses for jumping my bets all the time was that the chips were stuck together!
Don't worry, the filthy brown quarters at the El Cotex are still being used (and are still VERY contageous).
-Sonny-
western vittles...
the chicken fingers ain't bad; the stuffed peppers repeat on you. the hamburgers are okay but those special orders take awhile. the two-fer comp tickets aren't tough to find; occasionally some homeless dude will have one for sale outside. lowest price seems to be $2-$3. that's not bad for 2 x $4.95 daily special meals. last time i was given a western comp ticket, i asked the dude..."like can you make it out for bellagio ?".
rather than the western lunch counter, the better stop on the route is the 'cortez coffee shop. the prime rib special seems to have been replaced by a t-bone deal.
the gold spike counter fixin's are weak, other than the breakfast, if you can score a freebie coupon.
the chicken fingers ain't bad; the stuffed peppers repeat on you. the hamburgers are okay but those special orders take awhile. the two-fer comp tickets aren't tough to find; occasionally some homeless dude will have one for sale outside. lowest price seems to be $2-$3. that's not bad for 2 x $4.95 daily special meals. last time i was given a western comp ticket, i asked the dude..."like can you make it out for bellagio ?".
rather than the western lunch counter, the better stop on the route is the 'cortez coffee shop. the prime rib special seems to have been replaced by a t-bone deal.
the gold spike counter fixin's are weak, other than the breakfast, if you can score a freebie coupon.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
Cheques are filthy
It's true, and I take very seriously washing my hands between handling them and eating. Just like money, except the sleaziness of the casino population is somewhat worse than the general population. At the casino, I wash my hands BEFORE I go the bathroom.
It's true, and I take very seriously washing my hands between handling them and eating. Just like money, except the sleaziness of the casino population is somewhat worse than the general population. At the casino, I wash my hands BEFORE I go the bathroom.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
Nice changes!
DD down to 20 cards? We will rock them.
DD down to 20 cards? We will rock them.
I think casinos...
Would make more money off of thin cuts. I'm not math maven, but I would think the decrease in shuffling would result in a fairly substantial number of extra hands during a busy shift. I don't think counters could conunteract this, not enough of them.
Would make more money off of thin cuts. I'm not math maven, but I would think the decrease in shuffling would result in a fairly substantial number of extra hands during a busy shift. I don't think counters could conunteract this, not enough of them.