Rewiring your brain

[ZenKinG]

I didn't say you were lucky to grow your BR. I said we were lucky not to bust out. I started my experiment with my count with $800 seed money. I had more money but was only going to risk $800 toward a new experimental approach that had never been tried. I never needed to add any money to the seed BR. After a lot of play you should have seen you were lucky that downturn didn't happen out of the gate and cause you to lose your BR. That was my point. If you don't realize that you haven't learned much from playing. I know I was very lucky that every substantial loss was bookended by bigger wins so they were just a blip that was immediately erased. A string of losses would have wiped me out. I certainly saw losses after my BR grew enough that would have wiped me out earlier. So you say you started with around $3K and you had a bad swing of around $3K but you weren't lucky the way the wins and losses hit along the way that allowed you to stay alive? Delusional is definitely the right term.

Your hourly should be over twice what it is for that average top bet. Fix the holes in our game or your approach to playing. I know you are full of shit anyway because I have read your posts of losing high 4 figures or 5 figures to one casino in one day. You said that happened overtime you played at the, and they were cheating you. So you are either full of shit or completely delusional. One truth in life is people see the world as a reflection of themselves. You see all the successful counters as being full of shit. I wonder why that is what you see when you look at them. It is your reflection. I see dedicated counters that were lucky out of the gate and learned from their losing experiences rather than accuse the casinos of cheating. This allowed them to be even better as they went forward. You are so full of yourself you could never see how you were fucking up to learn from it. It was always someone cheating you because you are the best in your mind and can't get any better. I am constantly searching for new innovations and more creative approaches and trying to make my play stronger. Those that think they have nothing to learn never learn anything. Those that are the best are usually the best because they always seek to improve themselves causing them to constantly get better.

Oh really, I lost 5 figures in one day? LOL. Please go ahead and quote that post from any forum you would like. The most I ever lost in one session/trip was 7900 in 2 hours betting 2x250 in hi Limit room at Parx. At the one casino Harrahs that I claimed was cheating me and the one you seem to be referring to, I never lost 5 figures in one day there but I am down 5 figures career at that place, the only place Im down 5 figures. Ive had many 4 figure loss days in my career, especially at harrahs, but never a 5 figure loss day, fortunately. Even if i did lose 5 figures in one day, how does that make me full of shit at anything as you referred to? I am down 5 figures over time at Harrahs but it is the only one ive lost that much and im up 5 figures at many other places. And please you should be the last person calling someome a fraud, you have lost massive credibility over the years on your tthree handle on the other forum and you show a lot of red flags of a degenerate.

You also keep saying i couldve busted out. Did you not read me saying i basically busted out red chipping at the start of my career, but wasnt a really a bust out because I was working at the time but i lost more than I wanted which was 2-3k, but nonetheless stopped me from playing for a while. But because of my perseverance, i didnt give up and I then recouped that back after i started to study more and then eventually started playing green to low black stakes while still working and eventually built my bankroll to 58k to move out to vegas.

 

[Dummy]

Oh really, I lost 5 figures in one day? LOL. Please go ahead and quote that post from any forum you would like.

Do you know what "or" means? There was an "or" in there not an "and". High 4 figures or 5 figures means I approximated the number you stated in memory as $10K and wasn't sure which side the actual number was. You really try to argue and miss the point. The point is you started with about $3K and had swings that would have wiped you out if you weren't lucky enough to see them when your BR had grown. If you try to understand points instead of reading to argue you would have got that but you said you never had a swing high enough to butst you out so you weren't lucky to have grown your BR. Now you list several such swings in an attempt to say I was wrong about something. I wasn't wrong and you just proved the point I was making that you had denied.

Ive had many 4 figure loss days in my career

Aren't you lucky all those 4 figure losing days didn't stack up at the start of your lay when you only had around a $3K BR? You proved the point any counter would have admtted if they grew a large BR from an insufficient one. Everyone that grew a large BR freely admits that in retrospect they were very lucky not to have busted out their shoestring BR. I know you are still working on the large BR part but you at least have a totally sufficient BR for the time being.

You also keep saying i couldve busted out.

No, I said we were both lucky not to have busted out. There is a difference. But now you say you did bust out. Your story keeps changing. Hopefully you understand my point. I know everyone else that grew a sizable BR from a shoestring BR would automatically tell everyone they were lucky to have outraced ruin.

But because of my perseverance, i didnt give up and I then recouped that back after i started to study more and then eventually started playing green to low black stakes while still working and eventually built my bankroll to 58k to move out to vegas.

I am not sure why you think that occurring is anything unusual. But if you are need a pat on the back to feel good about what you have done, well done. You are the best. I am so humbled and amazed at what you have accomplished. It is so mediocre it couldn't be made up. You are the real deal. I am so impressed.

Do you feel better now?

 

[psyduck]

If so you have the appropriate bet out to make the bet jump without drawing unwanted heat.

That is your own assumption. You can only hope the surveillance feels the same way.

 

[Dummy]

That is your own assumption. You can only hope the surveillance feels the same way.

Well you can have a larger waiting bet which means a smaller spread or you can have a bigger spread and lose less to waiting bets and use an intermediate bet when the count might have you betting an advantage bet on the next round. Picking where you play and where you don't play is as important as picking the table conditions you play at. You can find more places that are acceptable if you know how to make them tolerate your action. Lots of places I play regularly are considered sweat shops. I know how to play so they tolerate me. Every time I thought I had messed up and a suit convention was about to lead to a back off, they were deciding what to offer to make me happy so I would come back. Everyone gets all worried about arguing about counts and try to squeeze every ounce of EV they can from the game. But the reality is the art to winning is about being allowed to play. The biggest value of complexity is being able to use it to make wise trade offs that make you look like an idiot. A simple approach can use other techniques that are also used by all to get away with it. But having that extra EV to spend and using the extra info to mitigate the cost of longevity moves and not needing to look as threatening to make playing worth it (smaller spread, lower top bet, etc) is the real value of more complexity. Taking the extra EV is short sighted if you get banned as quick as the average player. Spending the extra EV on longevity is a wiser investment if it works.

 

[ZenKinG]

Do you know what "or" means? There was an "or" in there not an "and". High 4 figures or 5 figures means I approximated the number you stated in memory as $10K and wasn't sure which side the actual number was. You really try to argue and miss the point. The point is you started with about $3K and had swings that would have wiped you out if you weren't lucky enough to see them when your BR had grown. If you try to understand points instead of reading to argue you would have got that but you said you never had a swing high enough to butst you out so you weren't lucky to have grown your BR. Now you list several such swings in an attempt to say I was wrong about something. I wasn't wrong and you just proved the point I was making that you had denied.

Aren't you lucky all those 4 figure losing days didn't stack up at the start of your lay when you only had around a $3K BR? You proved the point any counter would have admtted if they grew a large BR from an insufficient one. Everyone that grew a large BR freely admits that in retrospect they were very lucky not to have busted out their shoestring BR. I know you are still working on the large BR part but you at least have a totally sufficient BR for the time being.

No, I said we were both lucky not to have busted out. There is a difference. But now you say you did bust out. Your story keeps changing. Hopefully you understand my point. I know everyone else that grew a sizable BR from a shoestring BR would automatically tell everyone they were lucky to have outraced ruin.

I am not sure why you think that occurring is anything unusual. But if you are need a pat on the back to feel good about what you have done, well done. You are the best. I am so humbled and amazed at what you have accomplished. It is so mediocre it couldn't be made up. You are the real deal. I am so impressed.

Do you feel better now?

Yea i didnt get wiped out because i also wasnt betting the SAME amount as i did later on when I had those massive swings. But even with that being said, i did mention the very first time i got into counting i did lose about 2-3k and had me stop playing, but i persevered so my success had nothing to do with 'luck' because I simply didnt want to give up.

Jesus man. Youre the one who looks to argue any chance he gets and tries to get the last word in in every thread or argument on any forum. Youre pathetic. If you want to get the last reply in so badly, go ahead. If you didnt notice, having the last word every time doesnt make whatever you're saying have any additional validity.

 

[Dummy]

Everyone else that has grown a sizable BR from a shoestring BR freely admits in retrospect that they were very lucky to not have busted out because they learn from their experience. Apparently nobody can teach you anything and you don't learn from experience. That is a very bad combination. You have two ways of thought. Either I am the most unlucky guy on earth or I am the greatest player the world has ever seen so luck had nothing to do with my success. Both are completely and utterly wrong.

 

[Hell'nBack]

I had several false starts when I began my blackjack campaign on a shoestring bankroll but eventually changed it to a pro's bankroll through playing and not adding in from outside sources. There were no outside sources. My experience was similar to Kevin Blackwood's on a few levels. I busted out many times or languished in financial no man's land for what seemed like eons. I think to play this game successfully requires a fair degree of mental illness. Don't panic, though, it's just my personal opinion and observation. Normal people just aren't capable of pulling it off. Snyder, Wong or Renzy couldn't manage it either.