royal flush

[aslan]

well, tonight i did, :grin:
but it was holding four to the royal, held K,J,10,A clubs, and the ole gal of clubs came through for me, lol, with a small progressive, too.
pushed the button and thought, fat chance of this, then
weird thing was, i could do no wrong on hardly anything all night......sweet!

Holy batrachian! Congratulations, you lucky, green anuran! I have had a long drought on RSF's, considering I had several in fairly close proximity a couple of years ago. But the VP-related comps are a great reward even at half-price, and I have found no better way to "launder" free slot play. I had a one-card draw a couple of weeks ago, but failed to make it good. What is it, one in forty-seven? Pretty good odds for an 800-unit pay-off.

 

[kewljason]

I don't think that is legal. I would report it to the gaming commission. As far as I know, the random generator is supposed to simulate a randomly shuffled deck WITHOUT replacement of drawn cards. I have often discarded a 4 of clubs, as an example, and received another 4 of a different suit, so much so, that I wondered if the machine was on the up and up. But what you describe cannot happen in real life, and so I believe it is also against the rules for machine play. Someone here with greater knowledge than myself needs to weigh in.

Someone with great 'machine' knowledge did weigh in. He just didn't want to do so in public. He confirms what you have said, not possible, with the exception of class 2 licenses (mostly Indian casinos) I can't say I know a damn thing about such. Could have sworn it has happened and on more than one occasion. Again, maybe my eyes and mind playing tricks on me. I have noticed that game tends to do that. I can't imagine how you VP 'specialist' can sit and stare at that for hours on end.

 

[Billy C1]

Congrats to you Mr Frog. :celebrate I have only had 4 royals in my life so far and they all have been holding 3 cards or less. I have never held four cards and drawn a royal. I thought I had actually done so earlier this week while playing some free play. I held 10, J, Q, K spades and drew a 9 of spades. For a second I thought I had hit my second royal in less than a hundred hands but it was only my eyes momentarily deceiving me. It was still a nice payoff for free play.

What I have notice though is several times when I have held 4 cards, I drew the same damn card as I discarded. Like a 4 of clubs. Discard a 4 of clubs, draw a new 4 of clubs. What the F**k is that. I guess the odds of this are the same as drawing the card you actually need.

Anyway, you apparently know how to do it right. Congrats.

BTW, if you could do no wrong, why aren't you still playing?

If and when you draw the same size AND suit card again, write down the machine number and call gaming commission immediately. This would be highly illegal in Vegas.
I'm guessing you are drawing same size cards BUT different suits. It seems to happen more often than it should but it's just because it gets your attention when it does happen.

BillyC1

 

[sagefr0g]

Someone with great 'machine' knowledge did weigh in. He just didn't want to do so in public. He confirms what you have said, not possible, with the exception of class 2 licenses (mostly Indian casinos) I can't say I know a damn thing about such. Could have sworn it has happened and on more than one occasion. Again, maybe my eyes and mind playing tricks on me. I have noticed that game tends to do that. I can't imagine how you VP 'specialist' can sit and stare at that for hours on end.

same thing happened to me, not getting the exact same card on the re-draw, lol, but when i woke up, just now lol, i did have a text message on my phone about how you can't get the same card on the re-draw on class 3 gaming machines. apparently it is possible on class 2 machines, geesh!
but anyway, i've seen it often enough where, throw away some card of some suit and you get the same card value back just of another suit.
and fwiw, to me vp is a crappy depressing game, no vp specialist here, but i don't mind playing it when it's worth it. chasing value with vp, is for me worse than drinking sea water while lost adrift at sea, lol. but i guess there are those who manage to make it work. nuthin wrong with it when yah get the royal, though, lol.
specializing in machines though, well it's hard to sit and stare on them for hours on end as well, just like it is sitting for hours counting cards, while seventy percent of the time (or so) there is no advantage.

edit: yup Macho, it's 4pm and i just got up lol.

 

[Billy C1]

Shocking

When I drew a royal on a FIVE card redraw it was like 4k falling out of the sky into my hand. I think the odds are even steeper against this happening than being dealt a royal on the initial five cards because of the five cards that aren't available (discards).
It was the biggest surprise in my many years of gaming.

BillyC1

 

[tthree]

well, tonight i did, :grin:
but it was holding four to the royal, held K,J,10,A clubs, and the ole gal of clubs came through for me, lol, with a small progressive, too.
pushed the button and thought, fat chance of this, then
weird thing was, i could do no wrong on hardly anything all night......sweet!

Got that brass ring again eh.

 

[Shoofly]

When I drew a royal on a FIVE card redraw it was like 4k falling out of the sky into my hand. I think the odds are even steeper against this happening than being dealt a royal on the initial five cards because of the five cards that aren't available (discards).
It was the biggest surprise in my many years of gaming.

BillyC1

I would think the odds were better on the redraw because the 5 discards are not likely to be high cards.

 

[Billy C1]

I would think the odds were better on the redraw because the 5 discards are not likely to be high cards.

That depends on which variation of vp you're playing. In my case, I was playing 99.73% version of NSUD's and high cards are of no more value than low cards.
Your thinking is probably correct for JOB version of vp.

BillyC1