Semi-pro by force...maybe!

[Coyote]

I may be getting cut back to 4 days a week at my place of employment. I'm having a tough time dealing with it and I'm trying to put it into perspective. I'm contemplating going semi-pro with the extra time. :laugh:

I am more than frustrated since the one at the helm is an idiot and has put me and my associates in this position! :flame:

Stupid should hurt! :whip:

Any thoughts?

 

[Gamblor]

Crisis is opportunity.

 

[Coyote]

Crisis is opportunity.

True, I'm trying to figure out how to position myself to see the opportunities take full advantage of them.

Maybe its time to put out the resumes!

 

[aslan]

I am a novice, but if I were doing CC for a part-time salary substitute, I would want the best possible shot at the cash with the least amount of risk. For me, that would be team play in the mode of spotter/BP, since spotters need no EV draining camo, and max bet can be set at any level affordable. Also, there are games where min bet is not crushing in a play-all BS mode. Finding a trusted teammate or two seems like the hardest part. Also, you have to find stores where tables are not kept crowded at various times, like late at night or early morning. But that's just my opinion. There are real experts here who may have other ideas.

 

[sagefr0g]

stop gap measures or more

Coyote, i'm a novice as well but, i'm with aslan on the getting the most bang for your buck risk wise.
probably you know this, but put together a overall game plan that you can hang some numbers on expectation wise with respect to your costs, sorta thing. figure the expectation for the three days (or however many days), for the stores you can exploit against the costs you'd incur and figure how those numbers stack up against you days work lost, sorta thing.
hopefully you can come up with a diverse array of advantage plays, hopefully your expectation minus costs will be close to the value of the work day you lose.

 

[Coyote]

I am a novice, but if I were doing CC for a part-time salary substitute, I would want the best possible shot at the cash with the least amount of risk. For me, that would be team play in the mode of spotter/BP, since spotters need no EV draining camo, and max bet can be set at any level affordable. Also, there are games where min bet is not crushing in a play-all BS mode. Finding a trusted teammate or two seems like the hardest part. Also, you have to find stores where tables are not kept crowded at various times, like late at night or early morning. But that's just my opinion. There are real experts here who may have other ideas.

Team play may be a little tough. Im some what isolated here. I need to travel a little bit.

 

[Coyote]

Coyote, i'm a novice as well but, i'm with aslan on the getting the most bang for your buck risk wise.
probably you know this, but put together a overall game plan that you can hang some numbers on expectation wise with respect to your costs, sorta thing. figure the expectation for the three days (or however many days), for the stores you can exploit against the costs you'd incur and figure how those numbers stack up against you days work lost, sorta thing.
hopefully you can come up with a diverse array of advantage plays, hopefully your expectation minus costs will be close to the value of the work day you lose.

Yep this is the direction I am headed. Thanks Sagefr0g.

 

[blackjacktilt]

I may be getting cut back to 4 days a week at my place of employment. I'm having a tough time dealing with it and I'm trying to put it into perspective. I'm contemplating going semi-pro with the extra time. :laugh:

I am more than frustrated since the one at the helm is an idiot and has put me and my associates in this position! :flame:

Stupid should hurt! :whip:

Any thoughts?

Is there such a thing as a "semi-pro" counter? My belief is you are either casual in an attempt to supplement your income, playing with money you can afford to lose, or you play full time to make a living. I don't think casual is considered semi-pro, and don't believe semi-pro exists in the AP world. Just some food for thought, I could be wrong....

 

[Coyote]

Is there such a thing as a "semi-pro" counter? My belief is you are either casual in an attempt to supplement your income, playing with money you can afford to lose, or you play full time to make a living. I don't think casual is considered semi-pro, and don't believe semi-pro exists in the AP world. Just some food for thought, I could be wrong....

Probably one in-the-same symantically. I may end up being a very active casual player.

 

[sagefr0g]

Is there such a thing as a "semi-pro" counter? My belief is you are either casual in an attempt to supplement your income, playing with money you can afford to lose, or you play full time to make a living. I don't think casual is considered semi-pro, and don't believe semi-pro exists in the AP world. Just some food for thought, I could be wrong....

probably need to think of it more in terms of the common practice (in this day and age) of people holding down two jobs as opposed to one, sorta thing.....

 

[blackjacktilt]

probably need to think of it more in terms of the common practice (in this day and age) of people holding down two jobs as opposed to one, sorta thing.....

Good point Frog, I can see it that way.

 

[creeping panther]

Coyote

I may be getting cut back to 4 days a week at my place of employment. I'm having a tough time dealing with it and I'm trying to put it into perspective. I'm contemplating going semi-pro with the extra time. :laugh:

I am more than frustrated since the one at the helm is an idiot and has put me and my associates in this position! :flame:

Stupid should hurt! :whip:

Any thoughts?

I know you to be an outstanding individual and a credit to this site and I am very sad to hear of this situation.

I am sure you will land on your feet better than ever but in the mean time I will be very happy to help you out in your AP endeavors in any way I can.

Friend,
CP

 

[Coyote]

I know you to be an outstanding individual and a credit to this site and I am very sad to hear of this situation.

I am sure you will land on your feet better than ever but in the mean time I will be very happy to help you out in your AP endeavors in any way I can.

Friend,
CP

Thank you so much CP! I will take you up on the offer!

It is because of you and some others here that I now have the knowledge and confidence to even think of taking on this endever. I will continue to take heed to the wise advice that you all freely offer.

Regards,
Coyote

 

[aslan]

Team play may be a little tough. Im some what isolated here. I need to travel a little bit.

In that case, I'm thinking of the old saying that when one door closes another door opens. There is some opportunity awaiting you out there, perhaps not even related to blackjack. Don't get depressed; my Mom used to tell me that every cloud has a silver lining. She herself lived through the Great Depression.

 

[alwayssplitaces]

There's nothing wrong about supplementing your income by playing blackjack. Treat it like an investment in the stock market. It'll go up and down, but in the long run it'll go up.

 

[paddywhack]

Damn, that's tough Coyote.

I wish you well in this endeavor.

If I can be of any service, you know how to reach me.

 

[FLASH1296]

The way that I would approach this is as follows:

I would "do the math" to see how much of a bankroll I need.

IF, (and only if), I have the bankroll, and the support of significant others, I would proceed.

So … if my loss of income is $200 weekly, I would look to play 2 days at 4 hrs. daily ascertaining

that I would be seeking an expectation of winning $25 per hour (after expenses).

That is trivially doable with red action if the games are decent.

A spread of $10 to $80 in a typical shoe game should do it heat-free.

I have no idea where you are located.

 

[revrac]

Good luck Coyote. A good friend of mine was in a similar situation recently and ended up deciding to just leave which I know is a hard decision to make especially in this economy. It is very tough to work for a boss who doesn't do their job. You seem like a bright person and I hope the best for you!

 

[Midwest Player]

The way that I would approach this is as follows:

I would "do the math" to see how much of a bankroll I need.

IF, (and only if), I have the bankroll, and the support of significant others, I would proceed.

So … if my loss of income is $200 weekly, I would look to play 2 days at 4 hrs. daily ascertaining

that I would be seeking an expectation of winning $25 per hour (after expenses).

That is trivially doable with red action if the games are decent.

A spread of $10 to $80 in a typical shoe game should do it heat-free.

I have no idea where you are located.

A $10 to $80 spread for 8 hrs won't give you $200 a day. A $10 to $80 spread in a double deck game will yield between $15 to $20 an hour. You will need to play more than 4 hours in a day. I don't see any reason why you can't get 8 to 10 hours in a day. On my last three day blackjack trip on arrival day I played for 8 hours. Then slept in late the next day and played for another 8.5 hrs and on my last day played for 10.5 hrs. I have sometimes played as much as 14 hours in one day.

By the way, in the last 2,400 hours of blackjack play I have only made a little more than $11 an hour with a spread very similiar to the above.

 

[aslan]

A $10 to $80 spread for 8 hrs won't give you $200 a day. A $10 to $80 spread in a double deck game will yield between $15 to $20 an hour. You will need to play more than 4 hours in a day. I don't see any reason why you can't get 8 to 10 hours in a day. On my last three day blackjack trip on arrival day I played for 8 hours. Then slept in late the next day and played for another 8.5 hrs and on my last day played for 10.5 hrs. I have sometimes played as much as 14 hours in one day.

By the way, in the last 2,400 hours of blackjack play I have only made a little more than $11 an hour with a spread very similiar to the above.

Not only that, it's an average, and one has to take into account the losing streaks where the income is negative. It does not always cooperate and come after the winning streaks either, which compounds the problem when one os looking for reliable income. Long term is key to planning.