Playing in Kansas City this weekend and everytime I hit 16 the guy next to me goes into his monologue about why he never hits 16. I'm good natured for awhile, telling him its basic strategy, etc. Finally he hits my last nerve when he says "How do you know the basic strategy card is correct?" I reply, "It was written by an MIT mathematics professor, what are your qualifications?" I doubt if what I told him was true, but it sure shut him up!
Shutting up the ploppy
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Mimosine
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close enough!
i usually try to ignore people whom i dislike at the table - and speak only when i deem necessary or for comedic value. usually in this case i don't try to sound too smart, i usually stick to the "you play your hand your way and i'll play mine my way." if that doesn't work then i tell them i'll play my hand however they want me to if they pass me over a few stacks of their chips. :grin:
Automatic Monkey
Banned
Belch
Can you belch at will? When I have ploppies complaining, sometimes I will just stare down at the table in front of me and loudly belch. It makes me come across like an aggressive psychopath. They will always shut up and sometimes leave the table. (So don't do this in negative or neutral counts!)
Can you belch at will? When I have ploppies complaining, sometimes I will just stare down at the table in front of me and loudly belch. It makes me come across like an aggressive psychopath. They will always shut up and sometimes leave the table. (So don't do this in negative or neutral counts!)
xxrenegadexx
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How do you guys deal with the good basic strategy player getting mad when you alter basic strategy due to a high or low count- Quite a few times after staying on a 16 vs 10 on good counts Ive had players get pissed.
I find this amusing only because yesterday I was getting screamed at for HITTING 16 v. 10! Go figure!
Ploppies will blame you for just about anything. I accidentally hit a 14 against a 5 tonight. Turns out I got a 2 and stood, and the dealer went on to bust, saving the table! I told them to remember that next time I "screwed up", e.g. made an index play, LOL. Later I hit a 13 against a 3 in a negative count and nobody said a word as I busted. All in all a decent group of ploppies tonight, although I was not lucky and lost $450, but that is only 18 of my minimum bet so no biggee.
ihate17
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One of my tales from the felt, my niece vs a BS nazi
Several years ago, I am watching my niece play at a strip casino with 3 other players. She is at first base, two poor players in the middle and a woman who plays absolutely perfect basic strategy and gives hell to anyone who does not, complains constantly because she is losing, blames others poor play for her misfortune, complained to the pit about the dealer, complained to the pit boss about the pit, basically everyone's favorite player in the casino.
They are near the end of the shoe and the count has gone very negative. My niece get dealt a 9 vs dealer 3 and does not double because of the count. She then hits a 3 and hits again and gets an 8 for 20. Do not remember what the guys in the middle had but they both stay. Third base has a big bet out and has 11, she doubles and hits a 4. Dealer turns and her hole card is a 7 for a total of 10, she hits a 8 and takes third bases chips and then it starts. "If you would have doubled like you know you should have you would have won double and the dealer would have busted etc etc etc." It just keeps going and it gets very loud. My niece sits there calmly and when she finally gets a chance to say something (as the pit is aproaching), she just says, "give me your chips". The woman screams, "what did you say?" and my niece calmly states, "If you want me to play your way, I certainly will, but only with your money." The woman shuts up, the guy next to my niece says to her that he wished he had said that earlier, the dealer puts her head down laughing and the pit turns and walks away, probably laughing also. Third base storms off.
I would guess that if this happens between two guys that there is a good chance of a fight. Based upon my niece being young, about 6 foot tall and an X college basketball player and the other woman being a 50 year old, a fight was unlikely.
ihate17
Several years ago, I am watching my niece play at a strip casino with 3 other players. She is at first base, two poor players in the middle and a woman who plays absolutely perfect basic strategy and gives hell to anyone who does not, complains constantly because she is losing, blames others poor play for her misfortune, complained to the pit about the dealer, complained to the pit boss about the pit, basically everyone's favorite player in the casino.
They are near the end of the shoe and the count has gone very negative. My niece get dealt a 9 vs dealer 3 and does not double because of the count. She then hits a 3 and hits again and gets an 8 for 20. Do not remember what the guys in the middle had but they both stay. Third base has a big bet out and has 11, she doubles and hits a 4. Dealer turns and her hole card is a 7 for a total of 10, she hits a 8 and takes third bases chips and then it starts. "If you would have doubled like you know you should have you would have won double and the dealer would have busted etc etc etc." It just keeps going and it gets very loud. My niece sits there calmly and when she finally gets a chance to say something (as the pit is aproaching), she just says, "give me your chips". The woman screams, "what did you say?" and my niece calmly states, "If you want me to play your way, I certainly will, but only with your money." The woman shuts up, the guy next to my niece says to her that he wished he had said that earlier, the dealer puts her head down laughing and the pit turns and walks away, probably laughing also. Third base storms off.
I would guess that if this happens between two guys that there is a good chance of a fight. Based upon my niece being young, about 6 foot tall and an X college basketball player and the other woman being a 50 year old, a fight was unlikely.
ihate17
ihate17
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Opportunity sometimes
Sometimes the ploppy getting angry is an opportunity to have one less player at the table. AM's belch or acting a little wild or saying something really strange like Tuesday at 2 I never hit my 16's but the next time I might hit it or stay on 15 or whatever I feel like. I go with my gut and my gut says to
His comments are meant to either get you to play his way or to leave. If you do neither, he will get up and leave more often than not.
ihate17
Sometimes the ploppy getting angry is an opportunity to have one less player at the table. AM's belch or acting a little wild or saying something really strange like Tuesday at 2 I never hit my 16's but the next time I might hit it or stay on 15 or whatever I feel like. I go with my gut and my gut says to
His comments are meant to either get you to play his way or to leave. If you do neither, he will get up and leave more often than not.
ihate17
I have found
letting a very nice ,smelly ,puke invoking , silent fart at a table does wonders and then scratching my crotch saying I think I got crabs from that chick in the lounge last night usually does wonders .Also picking my nose and come out with a nice booger and wipe it on a napkin for the table to admire !!!!! No need to thank me for the tips !!!!!
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letting a very nice ,smelly ,puke invoking , silent fart at a table does wonders and then scratching my crotch saying I think I got crabs from that chick in the lounge last night usually does wonders .Also picking my nose and come out with a nice booger and wipe it on a napkin for the table to admire !!!!! No need to thank me for the tips !!!!!
:grin: :cool2:letting a very nice ,smelly ,puke invoking , silent fart at a table does wonders and then scratching my crotch saying I think I got crabs from that chick in the lounge last night usually does wonders .Also picking my nose and come out with a nice booger and wipe it on a napkin for the table to admire !!!!! No need to thank me for the tips !!!!!
Ummm first of all LMAO....
Secondly, here are some more ideas to lose ploppies
1) Whisper quietly to the ploppy next to you "Hey sexy, are you into transgender threesomes? (be careful though, there's always that one person...)
2) If it's an elderly person tell them the bingo room is about to open.
3) Split your tens and then laugh at them after you took the card that they needed, if they end up getting a better card cause you split the tens keep splitting until they eventually get a worse card, then laugh at them.
4) Start humming the theme song from The Facts of Life.
5) Tell them you have a bad case of uncontrollable diahrea, and that you apologize for any accidents in advance.
6) Act like an even dumber ploppy then they are. Yell at them for cutting the deck like a retard and if they double down tell them that the special order of the deck has been disturbed and they must double down again for the deck equilibrium to once again return to normal.
I know this may sound like a radical solution but here is what I do. I ignore them.Nothing they say or do has the slightest effect on my play so why bother with them.
I try to be friendly to my tablemates,but if it isn't happening,I go into my solitude mode and ignore them.
I try to be friendly to my tablemates,but if it isn't happening,I go into my solitude mode and ignore them.
EasyRhino
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I just say "I got scared" and cry a little bit.
ihate17
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16
Sometimes when you stay on 16 you have a large bet out. At those times "fear of busting" is a good excuse for not hitting.
In a similar fashion, just last week, perhaps playing too long at this casino, I had a max bet out in a big count and got a natural against a dealer ace. I take even money and the dealer states, "you did not take it earlier". Tell the dealer I had a small bet out then but with this bet I want to make sure I get paid. Quickly helped me realize that even with an excuse that sounded logical, I probably should head out the door soon.
ihate17
Sometimes when you stay on 16 you have a large bet out. At those times "fear of busting" is a good excuse for not hitting.
In a similar fashion, just last week, perhaps playing too long at this casino, I had a max bet out in a big count and got a natural against a dealer ace. I take even money and the dealer states, "you did not take it earlier". Tell the dealer I had a small bet out then but with this bet I want to make sure I get paid. Quickly helped me realize that even with an excuse that sounded logical, I probably should head out the door soon.
ihate17
Automatic Monkey
Banned
That's exactly the "reasoning" I use too. Standing on 15 or 16 vs 10, taking insurance, and surrendering all can be interpreted as fear-based actions when you have a large bet out, when they just happen to be high count-based actions too.
halcyon1234
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Master BS Player: Why didn't you hit your sixteen that time, hmm?
You: The six was the wrong suit.
Then you sit back and relax in total satisfaction as you watch the BS player's head swell and violently explode as his mind is blown by the implications of your perfect suit-matrix system!
Be nice to ploppys ,,,,
Guy at a table was near broke, quit his hand and started betting behind me. First hand, got 9-2 Vs dealer 6. He didn't have the $$$, so I bought it. Nice win ... my bet*2 and his bet!.
He kept betting my hand. Never got an A-7 to see how he reacted, but was up 10 units of next 12 or so hands. Told him he brought me luck as I colored up and left him the "hot" spot.
Guy at a table was near broke, quit his hand and started betting behind me. First hand, got 9-2 Vs dealer 6. He didn't have the $$$, so I bought it. Nice win ... my bet*2 and his bet!.
He kept betting my hand. Never got an A-7 to see how he reacted, but was up 10 units of next 12 or so hands. Told him he brought me luck as I colored up and left him the "hot" spot.