SugarHouse
- Thread starter MountainMan
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See for yourself: http://spotcrime.com/pa/philadelphia/fishtownaslan said:
Automatic Monkey
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Can't we be politically incorrect, and say exactly what kind of a neighborhood it is?
kewljason
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oh pleeeaaaase! That map and report is a joke. Punch in any major city high population area and see what you get.21forme said:
Sugarhouse is not in the greatest area, but it is not horrendous either. I lived not too far from that area and have walked that area even at night. I've got news for ya, most casinos are not located in great areas. If you play AC and play las Vegas, then you should feel just as safe at sugarhouse, meaning you should always be vigilant. I am assuming of course that you are not wondering off into the nearby neighborhoods looking for drugs. And please don't tell me about incidents in the parking lot, because those incidents happen in AC and vegas and many other places including shopping malls, just the same. Be vigilant. Take whatever precausions and security measures you need to. Valet park if it makes you comfortable. Blue Efficacy
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If they play BS, they are not a ploppy.aslan said:
aslan
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...in your opinion. My definition of an AP (advantage player) is one who plays with an advantage, which of course is possible playing only BS in some circumstances. Anyone not playing with an advantage is first of all not an AP, and in my book, is a ploppy, which covers more than 95% of BS players. I'll leave the 5%, which I think is way overstated, to cover holecarders, comp hustlers and others who may still have an advantage playing BS.Blue Efficacy said:
From BJ21, a ploppy is a term coined by gambling author Frank Scoblete to describe a typical uninformed gambler. I'll take it one step farther; it's a person who plays as if uninformed, since the inference is that the person would put into play his knowledge, if he had any. So any card counter or otherwise an AP by knowledge, who refuses to play with an advantage, is still a ploppy in my book. Ploppy is as ploppy does.
Aslan, I consider a ploppy to be someone who is not skilled in blackjack. Someone who has studied basic strategy enough to know it cold is in my definition is skilled as the casinos have a much smaller edge over them than someone who has not studied at all. In fact, the casino often times does not make any money off this person due to comps, etc.
Knowing BS, does not necessarily make you an advantage player. However, with comp hustling, scavenger play, dealer mispays, etc, this skilled player can in fact be an AP.
Knowing BS, does not necessarily make you an advantage player. However, with comp hustling, scavenger play, dealer mispays, etc, this skilled player can in fact be an AP.
aslan
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In general, if they play perfect basic strategy I would call them a skilled player, but not an advantage player. I believe the casinos rate players this way, as well. Hustling comps is an advantage play, but I'm not sure I'd call the person an advantage player at blackjack if that's how they gain their advantage. But it is a shade of gray. I would think you'd need a ton of comps and scavenger play to overcome the house edge. I guess what I'm saying is that I respect your definition, and agree on a theoretical basis, but for practical purposes, I'd call the BS player a skilled player and the card counter, holecarder and shuffle tracker an advantage player.Thunder said:
jaygruden
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Any recent updates on playing conditions here? Have not been yet but trying to get there soon. I've read about neighborhood troubles and don't care about that. I know all the PA stores have same rules, but do they have any 6D? How's pen? crowding? number of open tables? heat? etc.
i was here a few weeks ago, and they only had a handful of blackjack tables open. looked like they were installing some craps tables or somethign in place of the other blackjack section they used to have. they only had a few blackjack tables without csms and the rules weren't anythin special. i think it was 8d with average pen (~75%). The select higher limit tables may have been 6d but i didn't stick around because they didn't allow mid shoe entry. Can anyone else confirm if no mid shoe entry is their policy or i just came on a bad shift?