TC proportional to # of players

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ricopuno

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I would like to share my logic regarding the value of TC and # of players on the
table.

Value of TC means the effectiveness of TC.

I believe that the value of TC is directly proportional to the # of players on the table. What I meant by this is that if TC is +3 and the # of players on the table are 6 then the value of TC=+3 is not true because the high cards can drop to the other 5 players on the table including the dealer except to you. Therefore if the table is full and the TC =+3 then treat TC as if it is TC=+2 and not +3 because the effectiveness of TC which relates to your betting strategy has decreased due to the # of players on the table.

TC =+3 is true only if the # of players on the table are 3.

If the # of players on the table are 2 then treat TC as if it is +4

because the probability that those high cards will drop to you has just increased.
 
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callipygian

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ricopuno said:
if the table is full and the TC =+3 then treat TC as if it is TC=+2 and not +3 because the effectiveness of TC which relates to your betting strategy has decreased due to the # of players on the table.
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TC and EV are calculated per hand, which means that it doesn't matter how many people are playing with you. However, the win rate is calculated per HOUR, which means that it does matter how many people are playing with you.

I believe you are thinking in terms of win per hour, rather than win per hand. You're correct, other players will soak up the good cards and lower your win PER HOUR. However, the counter isn't to bet less by assuming the TC is lower, the counter is to bet MORE hands and get more of those cards yourself. Instead of betting 1 hand of 8 units, bet 2 hands of 4 units.
 
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TheApprentice

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other players soak up bad cards, too

callipygian said:
TC and EV are calculated per hand, which means that it doesn't matter how many people are playing with you. However, the win rate is calculated per HOUR, which means that it does matter how many people are playing with you.

I believe you are thinking in terms of win per hour, rather than win per hand. You're correct, other players will soak up the good cards and lower your win PER HOUR. However, the counter isn't to bet less by assuming the TC is lower, the counter is to bet MORE hands and get more of those cards yourself. Instead of betting 1 hand of 8 units, bet 2 hands of 4 units.
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sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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ricopuno said:
I would like to share my logic regarding the value of TC and # of players on the
table.

Value of TC means the effectiveness of TC.

I believe that the value of TC is directly proportional to the # of players on the table. What I meant by this is that if TC is +3 and the # of players on the table are 6 then the value of TC=+3 is not true because the high cards can drop to the other 5 players on the table including the dealer except to you. Therefore if the table is full and the TC =+3 then treat TC as if it is TC=+2 and not +3 because the effectiveness of TC which relates to your betting strategy has decreased due to the # of players on the table.

TC =+3 is true only if the # of players on the table are 3.

If the # of players on the table are 2 then treat TC as if it is +4

because the probability that those high cards will drop to you has just increased.
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don't think so. check this link:
http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/counting/tcproof.htm (Archive copy)
 
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