Team-play for SD, 6:5?

[jack.jackson]

Good Idea or Bad Idea? Is it possible? You tell me?


So Ive heard, thats its possible to beat these games, w/ large bet spreads.

So why not form a 2 or 4 man team, to get the edge. If its possible, than it can be done, right. Any thoughts?

 

[bj bob]

Good Idea or Bad Idea? Is it possible? You tell me?


So Ive heard, thats its possible to beat these games, w/ large bet spreads.

So why not form a 2 or 4 man team, to get the edge. If its possible, than it can be done, right. Any thoughts?

Bad idea.
First, you're talking about single deck and that kills the idea of a 4 man team right off the bat due to penetration. You'd be lucky to get dealt the second round.
Secondly, Only if you could Wong in as the second team player, I don't see any way you could overcome that hefty advantage.
Hole carding seems to be the only effective way to slay that dragon.

 

[jack.jackson]

Bad idea.
First, you're talking about single deck and that kills the idea of a 4 man team right off the bat due to penetration. You'd be lucky to get dealt the second round.
Secondly, Only if you could Wong in as the second team player, I don't see any way you could overcome that hefty advantage.
Hole carding seems to be the only effective way to slay that dragon.

I dont know, but lets say like In AC where they cant bar ya, or IF theres a casino thats all 6:5,(So really it wouldnt matter if you got barred there) you could 1. Have a partner spread to MAXBET(or standing behind you GF or something and let her do the betting) or 2. you could jump to MAXBETS if heat wasnt an issue for you.???

 

[callipygian]

lets say like In AC where they cant bar ya

Then they would just prevent mid-deck entry.

Plus, single-deck and double-deck games are easily watched for shenanigans, because the count moves up and down so fast that it's easy to tell whether someone's varying the bet with the count or not.

At first I was going to say that you'd need more than the min-max spread to get an advantage (6:5 BJ requires a TC of +5 or +6 to be EV+, and in a shoe game, that happens less than 1% of the time, so you'd have to spread 1-100 which most tables won't accept), but upon researching at blackjackincolor, it looks like single-deck game you'll hit that TC about 5% of the time, so you only need about a 1-20 spread. So it's doable if someone will let you.

The point of the gorilla BP is to jump in for an extended time, at least 4-5 hands, not to hop in on one hand, leave, and then stand behind the table again. That looks so horrendously suspicious.

 

[jack.jackson]

Then they would just prevent mid-deck entry.

Plus, single-deck and double-deck games are easily watched for shenanigans, because the count moves up and down so fast that it's easy to tell whether someone's varying the bet with the count or not.

At first I was going to say that you'd need more than the min-max spread to get an advantage (6:5 BJ requires a TC of +5 or +6 to be EV+, and in a shoe game, that happens less than 1% of the time, so you'd have to spread 1-100 which most tables won't accept), but upon researching at blackjackincolor, it looks like single-deck game you'll hit that TC about 5% of the time, so you only need about a 1-20 spread. So it's doable if someone will let you.

The point of the gorilla BP is to jump in for an extended time, at least 4-5 hands, not to hop in on one hand, leave, and then stand behind the table again. That looks so horrendously suspicious.

Im not talking about exponential factors though. Im saying if thats what it takes, to get the job done, Then thats what it takes. Its up to you, to pull it off. If it can mathmatically be beaten, then why not teach'em a lesson. Provided you got the BR, then why not do it? In addition arent the rules besides the 6:5 pretty descent? Like -1.2 or -1.3% 6/5,S17,DAS? Therefore it would be better than 5% Ineffect Invoking less than a 1-20 spread. If you got the BR, then, by all means, Do it!

 

[Dyepaintball12]

6:5 is all that is wrong with the world.

Don't support that.

 

[jack.jackson]

6:5 is all that is wrong with the world.

Don't support that.

Im not supporting, Im talking about going from 10 to 1000$ when the advantage presents itself in a negative 1.4% game disadvantage and is mathmatically proven that given the right circumstances, that this game can be beaten.

Dont think I can beat this game, given no limit, un- limited BR????? There will still be occasional 1-2% EV hands. Search and Destroy.


Now that I think about it, I think im actually trying to present an oppurtunity? However unlikely, its always worth a shot.

Qfit, tell me otherwise.

 

[rookie789]

spreading $10 to $1,000 in a 6/5 game, is this a serious discussion or the Sunday comics? Talk about ROR.

 

[Canceler]

is this a serious discussion or the Sunday comics? Talk about ROR.

But jackson is playing on a no limit table with an infinite BR.

Dont think I can beat this game, given no limit, un- limited BR?????

So, yeah, Sunday comics.

Sorry, jackson, but this unlimited BR shtuff is just......so.......:sleep:

 

[moo321]

Here's a good reason: the EV is worse than the most dogshit 8 deck game.

 

[zengrifter]

Im not supporting, Im talking about going from 10 to 1000$ when the advantage presents itself in a negative 1.4% game disadvantage and is mathmatically proven that given the right circumstances, that this game can be beaten.

Dont think I can beat this game, given no limit, un- limited BR????? There will still be occasional 1-2% EV hands. Search and Destroy.

Now that I think about it, I think im actually trying to present an oppurtunity? However unlikely, its always worth a shot.

Qfit, tell me otherwise.

Qfit can do a sim, but he'll have to include the shufflle-up every time you jump to 1000, zg

 

[jack.jackson]

Qfit can do a sim, but he'll have to include the shufflle-up every time you jump to 1000, zg

First: I didnt realize, I put this in Advanced strategies Second: Qfits probably not interested. Therefore I'll get my own simms and up-date this in the future. I will not forget. Last and foremost, I probably deserve the crititicism and will now go back to being a single drop of rain.

Thanks Zen. I know you were just trying to be an Ice-breaker.

 

[Kasi]

Therefore I'll get my own simms and up-date this in the future.

The game is most certainly mathematically beatable under some theoretical circumstances as your sims will verify.

For the most part those circumstances are/maybe impractical in real life.

And, even if they were practical, there might be more effiicent uses of a bankroll from a risk-reward point of view.

Nonetheless, looking forward to the results of a sim.

Where would Taco Bell be without the "Think outside the bun" campaign?

Keep it up.

You wild and crazy single drop of rain you

 

[Canceler]

Oh, phooey!

...will now go back to being a single drop of rain.

1. I doubt that.
2. I hope not!