The best positive variance in 1 hour!

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Cardcounter

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What is the most that you have won in one hour or less? Both as an A.P. and an average player. I won $675 and $442 in less than 1 hour sessions. Once I had a rediculous streak of hitting 21's in a session I think I hit about 5 or 6 in a row. Not blackjacks but drawing to 21. Even the players around me thought it was ridiclous I was laughing too and having a great time I recall winning around $300 that session.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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Cardcounter said:
What is the most that you have won in one hour or less? Both as an A.P. and an average player. I won $675 and $442 in less than 1 hour sessions. Once I had a rediculous streak of hitting 21's in a session I think I hit about 5 or 6 in a row. Not blackjacks but drawing to 21. Even the players around me thought it was ridiclous I was laughing too and having a great time I recall winning around $300 that session.
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100u+ in under an hour with a 1-10 2D and a 1-4 1D. zg
 
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Canceler

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Playing two hands of 7.5 units each, blackjack on both hands. Next round, same thing. So, 45 units in two minutes.
 
Automatic Monkey

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Sounds like you guys are having the mirror image of what I've had my past few sessions! Good God, am I in a hole! If I don't have a good Christmas week trip, I might be stuck for the year.

But I've won 100 units in a shoe and lost 100 units in a shoe, plenty of times. I think I even did both in one shoe once.
 
moo321

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I once got dealt 4 blackjacks with 4 max bets out. I IMMEDIATELY left, as it was the last hand before the shuffle.
 
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Preston

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I don't have a miracle shoe or anything..

but i'm up 350 units for the month of August.

And I'm pretty satisfied with that :)..
 
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Kasi

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moo321 said:
I once got dealt 4 blackjacks with 4 max bets out.
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U mean on the same round?

If so, whatever prompted u to bet 4 max bets vs the same dealer upcard?

But, God bless, since u won lol.
 
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Kasi said:
U mean on the same round?

If so, whatever prompted u to bet 4 max bets vs the same dealer upcard?

But, God bless, since u won lol.
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There were 4 spots open, I was pretty sure it was the last hand of the shoe, and I knew I was leaving after the hand. So I said, hey let's play 4 hands, and then the blackjacks came out. They were smaller max bets than if I was only playing one hand, though.
 
EasyRhino

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moo321 said:
They were smaller max bets than if I was only playing one hand, though.
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I remember seeing, but have forgotten, numbers on same-ROR bets when playing multiple spots. With 2 hands it's about 70-75%. With 3 hands it's barely over 50%. With four hands it would be.... pretty damn small?

If I did that, I would have left right after getting the four naturals, even if I hadn't planned on leaving before!
 
moo321

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I think I bet a total of twice my max bet if I was playing only one hand. So 50% of max bet on 4 spots.
 
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Preston

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Kasi said:
Min units, max units, or avg bet units?
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I consider my unit to be $10 right now -- the minimum bet at the stakes I'm playing.

so $3500 for the month of August on my bankroll really ain't bad.

I ended july up only 25 units... had some really bad swings.
 
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Kasi

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moo321 said:
I think I bet a total of twice my max bet if I was playing only one hand. So 50% of max bet on 4 spots.
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Twice ur max bet playing one hand?

But 50% of max bet for 4 hands might not be too bad.

I'd just like to say that, fundamentally, the co-variance factors are applied to your bet whether max or not. Which, in turn is probably *78% of ur advantage*bankroll if Kelly and playing just one hand. Or half that if half-Kelly etc.

In turn, the factors to be applied would be the co-variance of x hands*ur edge*ur bankroll.

Not that there's anything wrong with the %'s suggested but they appear to be a percentage of original bet per hand*number of hands played.

So, say u have a $10K roll and are betting to a 1% advantage. Your Kelly bet would be say $78. If 2 hands, it would be .57*.01*10K*2 hands=$114 total bet. If 3, .45*.01*10K*3 hands=$135 total bet. If 4, .37*.01*10K*4 hands=$148.

And since .47*$78*4=$13=$147, it's fine to to quote that % as a percentage of original amount bet.

So, while the co-variance factor is .37 for 4 hands, it happens to work out to
47% of original bet*4 hands.

Guess all I'm saying, if ur bet happens to be too much in the first place, the effect will be exaggerated when spreading using the % to original bet*number of hands formula.
 
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Kasi

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Preston said:
I consider my unit to be $10 right now -- the minimum bet at the stakes I'm playing.

so $3500 for the month of August on my bankroll really ain't bad.

I ended july up only 25 units... had some really bad swings.
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Thanks. Some like to use min units, some max.

Don't know what ur playing or how for how long but having, I don't know how many in how long, such wild swings may be a sign it's time to re-examine whatever it is ur doing.

Can't hurt lol.
 
moo321

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Kasi, I think my grammar was unclear. I was saying that I bet a total of twice what my normal max bet would be if I was only playing one hand.

If I was playing one hand, my max bet would have been 10 units. But I only bet 5 units on each of the 4 spots.
 
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Kasi

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moo321 said:
Kasi, I think my grammar was unclear. I was saying that I bet a total of twice what my normal max bet would be if I was only playing one hand.

If I was playing one hand, my max bet would have been 10 units. But I only bet 5 units on each of the 4 spots.
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Thanks Moo lol. I pretty much knew u weren't betting twice a max bet on one hand lol. Since that would be a new max bet :)

Never take me too seriously lol. Sorry to give u wrong idea!

And it was a proper bet! So good instincts or whatever.

But now that u replied, I was going to ask u if u still considered winning 4 half-max bets with BJ was ur best variance!

No big deal and no need to reply, since I never think of best variance lasting only one hand lol. Or even one hour lol.

But absolutely wonderful and really cool. A round u will always remember.

That's, maybe, what it's all about anyway!

I tend to remember certain hands with big bets that I happened to win.

I tend to not remember that being 100+ units up after a few thousand hands, assuming flat-betting, was, in reality, perhaps my best variance.
 
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Kasi

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Automatic Monkey said:
Sounds like you guys are having the mirror image of what I've had my past few sessions! Good God, am I in a hole! If I don't have a good Christmas week trip, I might be stuck for the year.

But I've won 100 units in a shoe and lost 100 units in a shoe, plenty of times. I think I even did both in one shoe once.
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I'm on ur side AM, believe it or not lol.

But I was going to say, just generally, maybe be careful, or more careful, in what u r doing.

Losing or winning 100 (I assume min) units in a shoe "plenty of times" may be a sign of of something.

My greatest fear is u may be basically over-betting, chasing bets, and deviating from original betting plan from time to time.

But, if u got 100% faith in everything u do, I do too :)

Good luck man!
 
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