The book

[SandBaggins]

Holy Toledo! I was expecting (maybe) one PM, but got messages from 4 members regarding how "real pros" (ExhibitCAA's term) "really feel" about the author and his release of (some) information that was 'collectively-owned', and how the casinos benefited the most by the two releases.

I recall a time after the first release when 90% of the copies were being bought by casino agents. zg

Very interesting. I always thought he only sold copies of the book to people he knew to be professional or to people who his friends "vouched" for. I must have been mistaken.

I could see how casinos could benefit, no doubt.

SB

 

[zengrifter]

Very interesting. I always thought he only sold copies of the book to people he knew to be professional or to people who his friends "vouched" for. I must have been mistaken.

I could see how casinos could benefit, no doubt.

SB

That does appear to be the protocal now. You must be special, many are called few are chosen.

But my comments about casino agents specified the original publication.

Notwithstanding, the higher the price the more valuable it is to any casino or game protection company. If the price was $50K and it was really worth that amount, for example, then certainly the casinos would and do acquire them, regardless of limited purchase restraint. zg

 

[Elhombre]

sorry the wrong place.

Eh.

 

[ringlejames]

I think we need a page number.

I wonder who regrets it more, Ceasers or The Griffin Agency.

Bankruptcy anyone?

If you have to ask how much it is, you cant afford it. Even if you think you are a professional gambler and make a decent months wage.

 

[PierceNation]

If you have to ask how much it is, you cant afford it

More top advice on life from RingleDingle. Take note kids.

 

[ringlejames]

More top advice on life from RingleDingle. Take note kids.

Why you pick on me? The worst I could do with my post is extend our games? And make people who are already ploppies worse ploppies

:cry:

 

[Sucker]

Why you pick on me?

This is why:

If you have to ask how much it is, you cant afford it.

This is one of the stupidest statements ever, and I can't understand why it gets so often repeated. Only a fool believes it. Perhaps Humphrey Bogart, or someone else in the movies said it once.

Carlos Slim Helu, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffet are the 3 richest people in the world, and none of them will EVER buy ANYTHING without first asking the price!

 

[bronco60]

This is why:


This is one of the stupidest statements ever, and I can't understand why it gets so often repeated. Only a fool believes it. Perhaps Humphrey Bogart, or someone else in the movies said it once.

Carlos Slim Helu, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffet are the 3 richest people in the world, and none of them will EVER buy ANYTHING without first asking the price!

Item: Immortality

Discuss above assertion in context.

 

[Richard Munchkin]

This is why:
This is one of the stupidest statements ever, and I can't understand why it gets so often repeated. Only a fool believes it. Perhaps Humphrey Bogart, or someone else in the movies said it once.

I have heard this attributed to JP Morgan. He supposedly said it in response to someone who asked how much it cost for him to maintain his yacht.

 

[shadroch]

This is why:


This is one of the stupidest statements ever, and I can't understand why it gets so often repeated. Only a fool believes it. Perhaps Humphrey Bogart, or someone else in the movies said it once.

Carlos Slim Helu, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffet are the 3 richest people in the world, and none of them will EVER buy ANYTHING without first asking the price!

A few years back, I was in a Porsche showroom looking at their new SUV.
I asked the salesman how the mileage was. He looked at me and said if you have to worry about this cars mileage, this may not be the car for you.
I told him he was right, went across the street and bought the Mercedes SUV instead.

 

[zengrifter]

My father carried it beyond price: He would always admonish me: "Kid, if you have to ask, don't ask." z:laugh:g

 

[BrianCP]

My father carried it beyond price: He would always admonish me: "Kid, if you have to ask, don't ask." z:laugh:g

I'm going to guess your father wasn't the intellectual type then. The correct approach is to ask, even if you think you don't have to. Then, ask someone else to double check.

Similar to how scientists have to have their results published and reviewed by their peers before any conclusions can really be drawn.

 

[tthree]

The way you talk about how expensive the book is and how much it is worth to the casinos it almost makes it sound like he was pricing players out and casinos in. I am sure that is not what you are trying to say but the cynic in me definitely felt the vibe.

 

[zengrifter]

The way you talk about how expensive the book is and how much it is worth to the casinos it almost makes it sound like he was pricing players out and casinos in. I am sure that is not what you are trying to say but the cynic in me definitely felt the vibe.

Well, the publisher's (apparent) sales limits, qualifications, and pricing appear to restrict sales ... but undoubtedly casinos will increasingly support an even higher-priced secondary market until all notable clubs and game-protection consultancies in the world own it or otherwise have access to it.

Could this be the publisher's plan? zg

 

[ringlejames]

Could this be the publisher's plan? zg

You two have that bad of a falling out.

 

[Maestro]

You two have that bad of a falling out.

Forsooth.

 

[WRX]

I recall a time after the first release when 90% of the copies were being bought by casino agents. zg

How would you know something like that? Is James sharing his marketing stats with you now?

 

[QFIT]

Well, the publisher's (apparent) sales limits, qualifications, and pricing appear to restrict sales ... but undoubtedly casinos will increasingly support an even higher-priced secondary market until all notable clubs and game-protection consultancies in the world own it or otherwise have access to it.

Could this be the publisher's plan? zg

I didn't get the idea that they were limiting sales at the start. I ordered it when it came out. This is the response I got:

Hello,

Thank you for ordering Exhibit CAA, which was shipped yesterday. Your tracking number with www.usps.com is 0309 2880 0000 2759 1055 (information updated nightly).

If you would be so kind, could you answer the following question. How did you find out about the book Exhibit CAA: (1) The 14th International Conference on Gambling & Risk Taking in Lake Tahoe, (2) Participation in gambling Websites, (3) General Internet search, (4) Cigar Aficionado article, (5) From another player, (6) From a coworker, (7) Other media.

Natalija, South Side Advantage Press

The question certainly didn't indicate that they knew or cared WHO was ordering. So, I responded that I bought the CAA book because:

None of the below. My Science Fair exhibit is on the Clean Air Act, so I looked up Exhibit CAA in Google and came across this book. I’m sure it will give me an advantage.

norm

 

[zengrifter]

How would you know something like that? Is James sharing his marketing stats with you now?

Those would be stats that ExCAA would prefer to bury, I'm sure. :laugh:

But no, my estimate came from Howard and Peter at Gamblers Book Club some years back when the first version
passed a tipping point to MOST of the remaining 1st edition buyers became casinos and their proxies. zg

 

[QFIT]

But no, my estimate came from Howard and Peter at Gamblers Book Club some years back when the first version
passed a tipping point to MOST of the remaining 1st edition buyers became casinos and their proxies. zg

Good source. And hardly surprising. I mean, if you're Mike Barnett, or the Z-Man, or Jacobson or Shackleford, or someone like Ron Buono, of course you're going to buy the book.