Take the 6 deck chart for example. Using his IRC's you need a count of +9 with one deck in the discard tray to increase your bet, now if you have 1.5 decks and a count of +9 you are NOT to increase your bet as you are outside of the triangle. Basically all the key spots on his charts correspond to a true count of +1. The reason the bet ramp jumps so much with more decks in the discard tray is each change in RC has more of an impact with less cards remaining. Additionally, when he says decks in the discard tray he assumes you've sat there from the beginning of the shoe, it is actually # of decks in which you've seen play.johnnyb said:A review and a question to Mr. Dravot or anyone else who can be of assistance (thanks in advance):
I have been practicing with the KO count for around a year and a half (which is a minor guesstimate) and have become fairly well equipt with the counting method. Recently, after I became proficient with Knockout Blackjack, I was looking on the forums and came upon the discussion of Mr. Dravot's book, The Color Of Blackjack, which happened to be yesterday. I immediately bought it wanting to learn more regarding a method I have put some time into. I really enjoy the optimization of the counting method with the use of the Frigid, Cold, Warm, and Hot area while giving the reader more betting opportunities and establishing that there actually are overbetting points beyond the Key Count based on how many decks have been dealt. The illustrations really help with the learning process which Knockout Blackjack did not have. This entire book is fascinating, truly.
Excellent job to you, Mr. Dravot, and anyone else who has helped you.
Onto the question pertaining the book:
As the betting ramp is described, specifically for a six deck shoe, I am getting minorly confused as to how I should bet. The betting ramps are placed directly on each line (the number of decks: 1, 2, 3 etc... ) Now, let's pretend there is one deck and a half in the discard tray. Do I immediately switch to the betting ramp on two decks dealt, or do I maintain the betting ramp on one deck dealt until there are actually two decks in the discard tray?
Thanks a dozen.
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it is answering my question, which is not your fault. I didn't explain my question exceptionally well. Let's pretend the running count is +15 with a deck and a half dealt. Do I use the betting ramp for only a deck dealt because I haven't reached two decks yet, or should I use the betting ramp at two decks dealt?revrac said:
You can do one of two things, either of which are fine. 1) interpolate. 2) use the two deck in your scenario as overbetting is more costly.johnnyb said:I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it is answering my question, which is not your fault. I didn't explain my question exceptionally well. Let's pretend the running count is +15 with a deck and a half dealt. Do I use the betting ramp for only a deck dealt because I haven't reached two decks yet, or should I use the betting ramp at two decks dealt?
While it is going to have a negligible effect you would NOT want to use 1 deck until you get to 2, you would want to use 2 if between 1 and 2. As in the example I gave in the first response if you are using 1 deck and RC of +9 with 1.5 decks dealt your TC is less than 1 and you wouldn't want to be over betting in this situation.BUZZARD said:
You both have contradicted each other and therefore I do not know which one to choose. Can you please make your answers as SIMPLE as possible for understanding purposes. "While it is going to have a negligible effect you would NOT want to use 1 deck until you get to 2." This is confusing and I think it doesn't make sense, but that could just be me. So let's try again. During a 6D shoe, the running count is +15 and there is a deck and a half in the discard tray. Do I either A) Use the 1 deck bet spread or B) Use the 2 deck bet spread. Please do not complicate the answer, an "A" or "B" will do.revrac said:
I'm sorry your having trouble understanding but I have written it as clearly as I possibly can. While I disagree with a part of what Buzzard said I have not contradicted myself. If you would finish the partial sentence that you quoted you would have your answer. I said "...you would NOT want to use 1 deck until you get to 2, you would want to use 2 if between 1 and 2."johnnyb said:
Optimally you would want to interpolate betting ramp and RC's according to decks played. Using the 2 deck ramp when 1.02 decks have been played would be less optimal than using the 1 deck ramp. Again though, the difference in results will be very minute. You would be safe with the idea you suggested of using 1 ramp until 1.5 and using 2 aftewards.johnnyb said:
^^^^thisrevrac said: