The power of tipping

Sucker

Well-Known Member
21forme said:
However, the best I ever saw (different city) was the dealer missing a few fingers, presumably from an industrial accident.
You're probably talking about Ralph in K.C. He had a part-time job as a process server. He went up to a house to knock on the door & the person he was trying to serve shot at him through the screen door, taking a couple of fingers off. Believe it or not, he was just as good BEFORE he lost his fingers!

He's no longer in the business, so I guess it's okay to talk about him now. We beat him for 18k in one hour; they figured out the play; barred my partner & I ; then they accused him of cheating & fired him, and had him blackballed from working in any of the Kansas City casinos.
 

Tico

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Sucker said:
You're probably talking about Ralph in K.C. He had a part-time job as a process server. He went up to a house to knock on the door & the person he was trying to serve shot at him through the screen door, taking a couple of fingers off. Believe it or not, he was just as good BEFORE he lost his fingers!

He's no longer in the business, so I guess it's okay to talk about him now. We beat him for 18k in one hour; they figured out the play; barred my partner & I ; then they accused him of cheating & fired him, and had him blackballed from working in any of the Kansas City casinos.
I reckon that handicapped dealer was a victim of collateral damage...Hmm...all you wanted was to win the casino's cash... and used the cash to pay for your 3 kids in colleges , and NOT tried to get Ralph fired from his job. Poor Ralph :sad:. Perhaps Ralph should find a job in AC casinos because NJ DOL & CCC protect handicapped dealers better than other States :), i.e., one of the handicapped dealers in Casino1001 had screwed up big time with a pitboss who attempted to get her fired. However, "screwups" are expected from handicapped dealers who're protected by NJ DOL & CCC, so she's still working in Casino1001 :grin:.
 

pit15

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I wish flashers in Ac would get fired (with no explanation or a bogus one). That way they can go expose cards in another casino ;)
 

blackjack101

Active Member
I still don't understand how tipping a dealer will convey to him the fact you want better penetration. If that were the case, 1, he would know your a counter, 2, anyone tipping is a counter, 3, every casino would have a lot more tables with a lot better penetration because gamblers typically bet....makes no sense....
 

zengrifter

Banned
blackjack101 said:
I still don't understand how tipping a dealer will convey to him the fact you want better penetration. If that were the case, 1, he would know your a counter, 2, anyone tipping is a counter, 3, every casino would have a lot more tables with a lot better penetration because gamblers typically bet....makes no sense....
Thats what I've been asking -
1. If only "buying" extra pene, how much extra can I tip and still have a +EV in trade-off for pene?
2. What techniques will work for buying pene with tips?

Please, anyone help me understand what this Tico guy is talking about. zg
 

zengrifter

Banned
pit15 said:
At this dump you can probably get away with "I'll give you X$ a shoe to cut less then 1 deck off, deal?" and then proceed to spread min to max.
If true then its pretty goddamn stupid that this Tico character names the place.
And he left the club's name in one or more posts after I asked him to remove it. zg
 
21forme said:
I know exactly who you mean :grin:

However, the best I ever saw (different city) was the dealer missing a few fingers, presumably from an industrial accident.
There was a dealer in Connecticut with missing fingers. He dealt just fine.

In AC I've been noticing a few dealers with symptoms of mental illness and drug use. I suppose there's a way to exploit that, but in two cases the dealers went off on paranoid rants and had to be relieved. That's unwanted attention.

Now if I find a dealer who is on drugs/off his meds and convince him to show me his hole card or mispay me, I wonder if that can be construed as illegal collusion with the dealer.
 

aslan

Well-Known Member
Automatic Monkey said:
There was a dealer in Connecticut with missing fingers. He dealt just fine.

In AC I've been noticing a few dealers with symptoms of mental illness and drug use. I suppose there's a way to exploit that, but in two cases the dealers went off on paranoid rants and had to be relieved. That's unwanted attention.

Now if I find a dealer who is on drugs/off his meds and convince him to show me his hole card or mispay me, I wonder if that can be construed as illegal collusion with the dealer.
AM,:whip: I didn't know you had a propensity for rationalization. :laugh:
 

pit15

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Before I started aping I had a job I hated. I got high at work. If I was a dealer I would have to be high outta my mind to put up with the bullshit for minimum wage.

So it doesn't surprise me when I see dealers showing signs of being high or drunk.
 
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