Tiiping the Dealer

21forme

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Nothing to calculate. That's what $2.50 chips are for. If I have a great round and I like the dealer, then I may throw in a red.
 

EasyRhino

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Shad, do you mean a semi-serious AP, or are you referring to civlians?

And what do you mean by a dealer rotation? I know some places that have dealers hop between tables every 30 minutes.
 

shadroch

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A typical dealer rotation is about 40-45 minutes.
I'll leave the definition of a pro to you,but I think way too many cheap people try to pretend they are pros and therefore don't tip.
 

Preston

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I generally save the pink chips for tip bets. Either right after a blackjack with an odd bet out.

I also keep a pink chip and use that to tip the cage.

$1 tips are for waitresses. I can't justify tipping more than that for essentially walking across a floor.
 

Licentia

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km703 said:
If you decide to tip, How do calculate it?
If my base bet is $5 I tip $3 to the Dealer and $2 to waitresses. When do I do it? If I am winning I do. Sometimes I can just sense that the Dealer is getting grumpy. A tip at that time seems to relax the dealer. They seem to get grumpy if you are winning a lot. The waitresses usually get ticked if you don't tip as well. You can tell. But I don't think the dealers expect you to tip if you aren't winning. So a few well timed tips can make ME feel more comfortable at the table. I have a sense of guilt sometimes; taking the casinos money. I don't know why. I feel like I am doing something wrong beating them. Obviously because they wouldn't want me back if they knew I was beating them. I guess most of it is to make me feel like I can play safely.

If I was betting $10 base, I would probably tip $5 to the Dealer and $3 to the Waitresses.

Licentia.
 

MAZ

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Heres a tip, don't sit at a table long enough to where a tip might be expected. If you play smart you shouldn't be sitting at tables for too many shoes in a row anyway. If your a headstone and a counter, you just don't get it. There are other techniques that might keep you at a table longer, but I don't think that pertains to most.
 

aslan

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If i win $100,000 is a single session, I think I'll tip the dealer ten percent. (hint, hint) Other than that, I tip a little, usually at the absolute end of a winning session. It's good PR. I never tip a losing session. :cool:
 

jimmtech

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Agassi 2006 Tip

Apr. 24, 2006
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

NORM: Service must rock for this kind of tip

Andre Agassi makes a big impression with tip at Red Rock Resort.

Andre Agassi turned the opening of Red Rock Resort into an early Christmas for dealers on Tuesday.

The Las Vegas tennis icon bought $10,000 worth of chips and quickly added $15,000 to his stake in the high-limit pit.
With that, he pushed the $25,000 stack back to the dealers as a tip.

"Talk about a King Kong George," a dealer said to me, using Vegas-speak for a megagenerous tipper.
 

Preston

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21forme said:
Tip the cage?

That's a new one on me. Do you tip bank tellers?
My wife's a cage cashier.



I know how much of her paycheck is tokes. Kind of a 'pay if forward" kind of thing.

Besides that, have you ever been to a casino where the cashiers don't know how to count chips quickly and effectively ? (clink clink clink clink clink, clink clink clink clink clink.. etc)

Now that I point this out, you will notice.
 

shadroch

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Preston,
How much does you wife recieve in tips each week? Is it a substantial amount.In hundreds,or perhaps thousands,of exchanges with cage people,I see much less than 1% of people tipping them.
 

Preston

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Tokes where she works add up to about another $1/hour on top of her base pay. nothing significant but It's usually 85 a paycheck or so. 26 paychecks a year puts it over the $2000 mark.

For a while I worked at a different casino as a cage cashier as well, and the toke rate there was pathetic. But then again, she works at a much better casino than I did.
 

EasyRhino

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Are the cage's tokes separate from the dealer's pool?

Anyway, if you're counting, it's ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL that you have a good idea of what you expected $/hr win rate is, so you can set your tipping as a fraction of that. If you're red-chipping, this might mean you can only tip a buck or two an hour, so you had better make it count.
 

EmeraldCityBJ

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Calculating tips

First, figure out your expected session win based on your hourly win rate and the length of your session.

Next, decide what percentage of your expectation you're willing to give up in tips.

If you tip anything above 0, make sure it's an amount you can afford and make sure it will be appreciated. This is why I put emphasis on tipping a percentage of your expectation rather than a percentage of your actual session win. For example, if you toke a couple red every 30 minute dealer rotation and your hourly win rate is in the $20-30 range, you've just toked away more than half your expected win. If you win more than a couple hundred bucks on any given session, the dealer might think you're pretty cheap for tipping so little. If a small tip is going to look more like an insult and not be appreciated, it's best not to tip at all.
 

jimpenn

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If you are a bs player, why is it necessary to tip? If the dealer is upset what can he do to effect a non-tipper?
 
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