So i have never counted in a casino as I'm still learning bs, but I have seen a lot on the forums about tokes and worst dealers/best dealers, and was wondering if anyone has ever had a dealer that knew they were counting and toked them for silence. Or do dealers even care about counting?
tokes for counting
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mjbballar23
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have tipped hush money several times. Whether dealers care or not, its impossible to know because each dealer is different. I dont think a dealer would rat out a counter that was tipping them though so thats why i do it.Stylee said:
EasyRhino
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The stereotypical counter doesn't tip at all (for good economic reasons), so a well placed toke can make you look like a non-counter.
But if you got a dealer that thinks that you need to bribe him/her in order to stay quiet, then you probably wouldn't be able to afford it. Some dealers seem to have an unrealistic impression of how much a gambler should tip (especially if they're having a big win).
But if you got a dealer that thinks that you need to bribe him/her in order to stay quiet, then you probably wouldn't be able to afford it. Some dealers seem to have an unrealistic impression of how much a gambler should tip (especially if they're having a big win).
Tipping
EasyRhino is right ..... the dealers would end up with any or all of your winnings if you tipped as THEY THINK YOU SHOULD.
If I feel that a dealer is being somewhat cooperative (i.e. cutting deeper), I make my tips as wagers for the dealer, especially when the count is favorable and I am pressing it up.
good luck
EasyRhino is right ..... the dealers would end up with any or all of your winnings if you tipped as THEY THINK YOU SHOULD.
If I feel that a dealer is being somewhat cooperative (i.e. cutting deeper), I make my tips as wagers for the dealer, especially when the count is favorable and I am pressing it up.
good luck
callipygian
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Dealers have always maintained that they prefer players winning, because winners tip more. That, however, doesn't translate in the other direction - tipping more might not make you win more, because tips are shared.
I'm pretty sure Arnold Snyder says this in one of his books: he'd be wary of any dealer who intentionally altered the cut or any other unethical/illegal thing (such as showing you a bottom card) in your favor because they'd be likely to do the exact thing against you if you were to cross them (or they perceived you were crossing them).
I usually tip when I win big, but that's because halving my EV doesn't bother me. I count for fun, not for the money.
I'm pretty sure Arnold Snyder says this in one of his books: he'd be wary of any dealer who intentionally altered the cut or any other unethical/illegal thing (such as showing you a bottom card) in your favor because they'd be likely to do the exact thing against you if you were to cross them (or they perceived you were crossing them).
I usually tip when I win big, but that's because halving my EV doesn't bother me. I count for fun, not for the money.